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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    Cruz campaign smeared Trump's wife with a photo they distributed in Utah. Then Trump attacked BACK!

    Cruz...you might want to look into a career of selling Used Cars! Snake!
    More misinformation. Actually it was an anti-Donald Trump super-PAC that ran the ad, not Cruz or his campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    Cruz campaign smeared Trump's wife with a photo they distributed in Utah. Then Trump attacked BACK!

    Cruz...you might want to look into a career of selling Used Cars! Snake!
    Trump, Not Cruz, Escalated 'Wife Fight'

    12:51 PM, MAR 25, 2016 | By MICHAEL WARREN

    Credit: Gage Skidmore


    Who started it? The question recalls juvenile disputes between siblings or classmates, but at the moment it's the issue at the center of the increasingly puerile Republican presidential primary. Did Donald Trump or Ted Cruz start the fight over each other's wives? One thing is for sure: Cruz has not gone after or been a part of any attack on Trump's wife Melania. Anyone who claims otherwise is either woefully uninformed or buying into the falsehoods perpetuated by Trump himself or his campaign surrogates.

    It's worth going through the timeline on this story. On March 21, the day before the Utah caucuses and Arizona primary, BuzzFeed's McKay Coppins reported on Facebook ads being seen by voters in those states encouraging Republicans to vote against Trump. The ads were paid for by a super PAC called Make America Awesome, a group created by Republican strategist Liz Mair for the sole purpose of fighting Trump. Make America Awesome is almost laughably small — by the end of February, the group had raised just under $19,000 since the beginning of the year.

    The offending ad features a provocative seminude photo of Melania Trump (before she had married Trump) from a 2000 photo shoot for GQ magazine. "Meet Melania Trump. Your next first lady," the text on the ad reads. "Or, you could support Ted Cruz on Tuesday."

    On Tuesday evening, just as it became clear Trump was going to be crushed by Cruz (and in fact, come in third behind John Kasich) in Utah, the GOP frontrunner took to Twitter.


    Donald J. Trump
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    Lyin' Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from a G.Q. shoot in his ad. Be careful, Lyin' Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!
    9:53 PM - 22 Mar 2016

    The first part of this message is simply untrue. Cruz had not "just used a picture of Melania." Not even one of the several super PACs supporting Cruz "used a picture of Melania." As the ads themselves clearly state, they were paid for by Make American Awesome.

    Let me write that again, at the risk of redundancy: Neither Cruz, nor a super PAC supporting him, used Melania's photo shoot or anything about Melania in a way to attack her or Trump's campaign. The Make America Awesome PAC may have been encouraging voters to vote for Cruz as a vote against Trump, but that does not make it the responsibility of Cruz. "Our activities are solely intended to defeat Donald Trump," a representative of the PAC told the Washington Examiner. All this is worth emphasizing and repeating because many in the media have falsely claimed the ad was somehow connected to Cruz. But, it must be repeated, it was not.

    "But," several Trump supporters on TV and social media have protested, "Cruz never denounced the ad." Again, it's an ad that neither Cruz nor anyone explicitly supporting him created. But it would be the decent thing to do. So why didn't the Texas senator denounce it?


    Well, he did, the next morning, at a press gaggle in New York. "Look, that ad was completely inappropriate," Cruz said before pointing out that it was in no way connected to him, his campaign, or his supportive super PACs. Cruz has repeatedly called for wives and children of candidates to be left out of the campaign rhetoric and has praised Melania Trump herself as an "incredible mom."
    It was Make America Awesome, not Ted Cruz, that criticized Melania Trump. That hasn't stopped Trump and his surrogates, like campaign spokeswoman Katrina Pierson, from drawing a connection that isn't there and falsely stating Cruz did not denounce the ad.

    Why does all of this matter? Because of the second part of Trump's Tuesday night tweet, which escalated things from a tasteless targeted Facebook ad to an actual attack from Trump on his opponent's wife. Trump cryptically claimed Cruz's wife Heidi Cruz had something to hide and that he would "spill the beans" on her.

    And as cable news increased the coverage of the new spat between the two candidates, Trump upped the ante late Wednesday night by retweeting an image of side-by-side photos of his wife and an unflattering photo of Heidi Cruz. "A picture is worth a thousand words," read the original tweet.


    Donald J. Trump
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    "@Don_Vito_08: "A picture is worth a thousand words"@realDonaldTrump #LyingTed #NeverCruz @MELANIATRUMPpic.twitter.com/5bvVEwMVF8"
    11:55 PM - 23 Mar 2016




    http://www.weeklystandard.com/trump-...rticle/2001716

    Folks that want to rehash the past should at least get the get the facts correct.

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    People have the facts correct, MW. It's how people feel about the two individuals that's in contention. There are people who like Ted Cruz and think it's fine that he or his people can do certain things but it's not okay for Trump to counter-punch. There are people who think Ted Cruz is a creep for a variety of reasons and that the ultimate expression of that was his performance at the Convention, and there are people who think that creepy performance is okay. Everyone knows the facts, MW. It's what they make of them that's the difference here.

    Personally, I'm focused on the future, not the past, and hope Texas finds an outstanding Republican to run against Cruz in the primary in 2018 and remove him from the US Senate.

    CRUZ'S GOTTA GO!

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    Letter: Cruz’s RNC speech

    Published: July 30, 2016; Last modified: July 30, 2016 07:34PM

    Sen. Ted Cruz R-Texas, showed America the real Ted Cruz in his speech to the Republican National Convention. He is about Ted Cruz and campaigning for Ted Cruz.

    He’s about being a sore loser and not about what’s best for America and unifying the Republican Party. We’ve seen Ted Cruz’s true character. He is not the man of integrity he would have people believe he is.

    In his primary campaign, Cruz pulled shenanigans — for one, the leaking of information that Ben Carson was dropping out of the race right before the Iowa caucus in hopes of picking up those votes.

    And Cruz’s true character shines once again. Cruz claims personal vendetta as his defense for not supporting the Republican nominee, but he forgets the attacks that he and his campaign made on Melania Trump. If Mr. Cruz was of strong character, he would have set aside his personal disputes with Donald Trump and endorsed him as the Republican nominee.

    Grow up, Ted Cruz!

    Our nation is facing a monumental election in November. It could mean the difference between democracy and socialism, and effect our constitutional freedoms. We need a leader who can move beyond himself and fight for “We the People.” Please vote for Trump.

    Nancy Baker

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    •••

    In reference to The Pueblo Chieftain article “Puebloan denounces party tactics” (July 1, and Anita Stapleton along with some other Colorado delegates walking out of the convention (it was staged, they walked right back in).

    They stated they walked out because they wanted to vote with their conscience. However, their job is to vote on behalf of the people. The demonstration was staged and thought out, I heard Ms. Stapleton talking about the demonstration and their intentions to disrupt the convention over a month before.

    As a Republican, I can assure you that neither she nor the other delegates from Colorado represent the sentiment of the majority of Republicans in the Pueblo area or in the state.

    I found the statement an embarrassment for the Colorado Republican Party. Their statement was divisive, rude, arrogant and showed they are not team players and they lack integrity.

    Yes, they supported Cruz, so did I. However, he lost. And when you lose you step aside and support the other members on the team.

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    Judy wrote (excerpt):

    Personally, I'm focused on the future, not the past, and hope Texas finds an outstanding Republican to run against Cruz in the primary in 2018 and remove him from the US Senate.
    Could have fooled me. There are a few folks on here that use every opportunity and excuse to pile on Cruz. Furthermore, we can hardly afford to lose a Republican like Cruz in the U.S. Senate. Anyone that thinks otherwise obviously hasn't followed his career very closely. Yes, we could do a lot worse. Oh, and one last thing, some of the stuff on this thread being passed off as fact actually isn't fact and I've proven that. Time to let Cruz stop haunting your dreams and move forward. It would be nice if some folks would stop trying to cause division where none need to exist.
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    There's a lot of things that would be nice. The nicest thing with regards to Cruz would be a great Republican opponent in the Texas Senate primary in 2018 and his removal from the US Senate.

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    Cruz is tied to all these Super Pac's. He is bought and paid for. He also lied about Carson dropping out to get the votes. Attack Trump and he fights back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    Cruz is tied to all these Super Pac's. He is bought and paid for. He also lied about Carson dropping out to get the votes. Attack Trump and he fights back.
    Are you suggesting there aren't Super-PACS supporting Trump? Heck, there is even a Make America Great Again PAC. Candidates don't control Super-PACS. Doing so is against federal finance and campaign regulations. Candidates can't even talk to these PACS. Not all candidates have billions of dollars to aid in the support of their campaign. While it was a nice touch for Trump to request no PAC help during his primary campaign, he has absolutely no control over what the PACS do. Nice gimmick when you are able to fund your own primary campaign. Well, actually he didn't fully fund his own campaign through the primaries. He had a lot of help through online donation contributions. I believe over half the money he spent was in online contributions. There is nothing wrong with that, just clearing up some misconceptions some may have about Trump's campaign funding.

    Trump does fight back like most any candidate would, but make no mistake about it, he also doesn't hesitate to instigate fights.

    Look, most of us on here are going to vote for Trump. However, that still doesn't mean some of us don't like Cruz. So isn't it time we put all the divisiveness behind us and focus on beating Hillary Clinton? The only thing the Cruz haters are doing is forcing me to his defense, which means I'm exposing things that are probably best not revealed and/or rehashed publicly. Time to stop the infighting over an irrelevancy (Cruz) and move on. Do you agree?

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    "Look, most of us on here are going to vote for Trump. However, that still doesn't mean some of us don't like Cruz. So isn't it time we put all the divisiveness behind us and focus on beating Hillary Clinton?"


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    Gee...maybe you should have told CRUZ to put all the "divisiveness" behind him when he went to the RNC convention and did not endorse or support Trump...who HE signed a Pledge to do so. Maybe Cruz should be focusing on beating Hillary Clinton. Cruz lost the nomination, Trump won.

    Don't you agree??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    "Look, most of us on here are going to vote for Trump. However, that still doesn't mean some of us don't like Cruz. So isn't it time we put all the divisiveness behind us and focus on beating Hillary Clinton?"


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    Gee...maybe you should have told CRUZ to put all the "divisiveness" behind him when he went to the RNC convention and did not endorse or support Trump...who HE signed a Pledge to do so. Maybe Cruz should be focusing on beating Hillary Clinton. Cruz lost the nomination, Trump won.

    Don't you agree??
    You're completely ignoring the fact that Trump attacked Cruz's wife and father. Would you be eager to openly support someone that done that to your family? I sure wouldn't.

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