Thread: 6 Held On Terror Conspiracy Charges In NJ

We will get this on the homepage and out to our supporters quickly. This will be another nail in the coffin of the Amnesty they are trying to cook up in DC!

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I heard on FOX news earlier today that three of the men worked for one roofer. Wow, glad he was able to save some money by hiring illegals.

They also rented apartments. Hope the apartment manager is proud that she filled a few vacancys.

All of these people are working with terrorists by aiding and abetting them.

Again, who is in our country?
Where are they?
What are their intentions?

WHY DON'T WE KNOW?????????
Close the border NOW

When I first read the Reuters version of this story early this morning, they only wrote about "6 New Jersey men." No mention of ethnicity, muslim, nothing. Then I read the AP story at the same time and they did say the important stuff.

I've been waiting to hear all day any explanation about the ones here illegally, how they got here or overstayed here. Anybody hear anything? Were there warrants for them just like ELVIRA has?

6 men are charged in Fort Dix plot
By Josh Meyer and Erika Hayasaki, Times Staff Writers
8:54 PM PDT, May 8, 2007


CAMDEN, N.J. -- Foreign-born "radical Islamists" charged Tuesday in a plot to attack the Fort Dix Army base in New Jersey were trying to buy AK-47 and M-16 automatic rifles when they were arrested, and authorities said that they posed a serious terrorist threat.

The six men were taken into custody Monday night in and around Cherry Hill after two of them allegedly tried to purchase the weapons from an FBI informant. They were ordered held without bail pending a scheduled hearing here Friday.

Details of their alleged plan emerged Tuesday in a criminal complaint and an FBI affidavit filed in federal court, as well as through law enforcement officials.

Christopher J. Christie, the U.S. attorney for New Jersey, said the men were in the final stages of a plot launched in late 2005, if not earlier. "They were at the point now where they wanted to obtain the automatic weapons. That would be the final piece in their plan, the final weaponry they needed to create carnage at Fort Dix," Christie said.

One FBI official in Washington, however, noted that there still was much not known about the men and their intentions. They allegedly had discussed trying to kill hundreds of people on the base with automatic rifles and rocket-propelled grenades.

"This is some guys who wanted to get a bunch of guns and shoot up some people. When -- or if -- they were going to shoot, we don't know," said the FBI official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation.

The suspects include three brothers who are ethnic Albanians from the former Yugoslavia: Dritan, Eljvir and Shain Duka. Christie said they were living illegally in the United States and working together in a roofing business in Cherry Hill.

The others charged in the case were legal residents: Turkish national Serdar Tatar of Philadelphia, Jordanian-born Mohamad Shnewer of Cherry Hill and Agron Abdullahu, who was also born in the former Yugoslavia and lived in Buena Vista Township, N.J. Shnewer worked as a cab driver, while the other two worked in a convenience store and a supermarket.

All six of the men were described as being in their 20s.

At the news conference, Christie said that authorities found no evidence that the men were connected directly to any international terrorist movement. But, he said, they clearly had used the Internet to obtain "jihadist material, which they used as both educational and inspirational for their cause."

Steven Emerson, executive director of the Investigative Project on Terrorism, said the fact that the men did not appear to have connections to al-Qaida or other groups -- which are watched closely by U.S. and allied intelligence agencies -- made them all the more dangerous.

"You didn't have people leaving the country or phone lines from overseas to intercept," said Emerson, who is an adviser to the U.S. government on terrorism matters. "These were six men who from out of nowhere directed themselves to try and kill as many Americans as possible. They trained themselves, they motivated themselves, they did their own reconnaissance."

J.P. Weis, the FBI special agent in charge of the South Jersey Joint Terrorism Task Force, said authorities "dodged a bullet" in arresting the suspects when they did.

"In fact, when you look at the type of weapons that this group was trying to purchase, we may have dodged a lot of bullets," Weis said at a news conference Tuesday. "We had a group that was forming a platoon to take on an army. They identified their target, they did their reconnaissance. They had maps. And they were in the process of buying weapons.

"Luckily, we were able to stop that."

The case underscores the complexities of America's post-Sept. 11 domestic counterterrorism effort, in which the FBI, Homeland Security Department and local police must decide whether to wait until suspected terrorists get close to acting to prove their case or move in earlier in an effort to stop them.

In this case, the FBI had been watching the men since January 2006, when one of them brought a videotape into a store in Mount Laurel to have it copied onto a DVD. It aroused a store employee's suspicion, and he called local police.

The video depicted 10 young men, including the six suspects, "who appeared to be in their early 20s shooting assault weapons at a firing range in a militia-like style while calling for jihad and shouting in Arabic "Allah Akbar" ("God is Great")," according to the FBI affidavit.

A paid FBI informant was able to infiltrate the group, and began taping many conversations with the men -- some by phone, others by wearing a wire.

For more than a year before their arrest, according to the complaint and interviews, the men watched and disseminated jihadist videos -- including the videotaped last will and testament of two of the Sept. 11 hijackers -- as well as messages from Osama bin Laden and footage of U.S. soldiers being injured or killed in combat.

In one instance, some of them laughed at footage that apparently showed a U.S. Marine getting his arm blown off, the complaint said.

The group also conducted firearms training and spent time shooting guns at a range in Gouldsboro, Pa., Christie said.

The complaint alleged that in late November 2006, Tatar apparently acquired a map of Fort Dix from his family's pizzeria, Super Mario's, so that the group could better spot their targets and make a quick getaway. His associates said Tatar knew the base "like the palm of his hand," the complaint said.

Much of the evidence against the men came from clandestine tape recordings made by the confidential FBI informant and a second man who was also on the FBI's payroll. The informants were not identified, but FBI Special Agent John J. Ryan said in the affidavit that both men, for the most part, had proved reliable in previous investigations. The primary informant even used his prior experience in the Egyptian military to get in the suspects' good graces, the court records show.

In one taped conversation two months ago, Dritan Duka and Shain Duka allegedly told one of the informants that rather than waging jihad, or holy war, overseas, they could do so in the United States.

"Shain Duka also stated, 'Because as far as people, we have enough ... people,' " the FBI affidavit said. "And we are all crazy. That's what is needed. ... "

Dritan Duka said his friend Tatar "had only one mind, how to kill American soldiers."

And Eljvir Duka, the third brother, was recorded as saying: "In the end, when it comes to defending your religion, when someone is trying attacks your religion, your way of life, then you go jihad," the complaint said.

Federal agents and their informants arranged to sell the men automatic weapons. And when two of the suspects visited the initial informant's house Monday night to buy the guns, Christie said, agents from the FBI and Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrested them and then went for the others.

Five of the men were charged with conspiracy to murder members of the uniformed services, which carries a maximum penalty of life imprisonment. The Duka brothers also were charged with being illegal immigrants in possession of firearms.

Abdullahu faces a lesser charge of aiding and abetting the Duka brothers' illegal possession of weapons.

Lawyers for the men were not available to comment Tuesday.

Meyer reported from Washington and Hayasaki from Camden.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... ome-center

You know.............for 16 months, JUSTICE KNEW about this terrorist plot!!

16 months! while they "put this case together"

And still...........alberto gonzales has NOT ENFORCED THE RULE OF LAW!


16 months our borders have been nothing more than a seive.

16 months while this pres and this Congress have publically called for MORE ILLEGALS TO INVADE our country while spewing their rhetoric!!

Yes and all the while, the national guard is in IRAQ building walls to protect against the terrorists!
Do the citizens of this country AND the soldiers based here deserve any less? Secure our borders. The national guard should be HERE building a physical barrier to protect this COUNTRY.
We count too!

Foreign-born "radical Islamists" charged Tuesday in a plot to attack the Fort Dix Army base in New Jersey were trying to buy AK-47 and M-16 automatic rifles when they were arrested, and authorities said that they posed a serious terrorist threat.

Christopher J. Christie, the U.S. attorney for New Jersey, said the men were in the final stages of a plot launched in late 2005, if not earlier. "They were at the point now where they wanted to obtain the automatic weapons. That would be the final piece in their plan, the final weaponry they needed to create carnage at Fort Dix," Christie said.

One FBI official in Washington, however, noted that there still was much not known about the men and their intentions.

"This is some guys who wanted to get a bunch of guns and shoot up some people. When -- or if -- they were going to shoot, we don't know,"

You didn't have people leaving the country or phone lines from overseas to intercept," said Emerson, who is an adviser to the U.S. government on terrorism matters. "These were six men who from out of nowhere directed themselves to try and kill as many Americans as possible. They trained themselves, they motivated themselves, they did their own reconnaissance."

In this case, the FBI had been watching the men since January 2006,

For more than a year before their arrest, according to the complaint and interviews, the men watched and disseminated jihadist videos --

The complaint alleged that in late November 2006, Tatar apparently acquired a map of Fort Dix from his family's pizzeria, Super Mario's, so that the group could better spot their targets and make a quick getaway. His associates said Tatar knew the base "like the palm of his hand," the complaint said.

In one taped conversation two months ago, Dritan Duka and Shain Duka allegedly told one of the informants that rather than waging jihad, or holy war, overseas, they could do so in the United States.

"Shain Duka also stated, 'Because as far as people, we have enough ... people,' " the FBI affidavit said. "And we are all crazy. That's what is needed. ... "

Five of the men were charged with conspiracy to murder members of the uniformed services, which carries a maximum penalty of life imprisonment. The Duka brothers also were charged with being illegal immigrants in possession of firearms.

And our borders sit open. Our president goes to the border, stands in front of border patrol agents and tells the American people that the borders are open but that good work is being done.

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As far as I am concerned this country should not allow muslims to come to this country at all. I know that sounds awful, but since our country obviously cannot handle immigration or even people just visiting this country, they shouldn't allow any muslims to come here. I am tired of this country's inaction. WE HAVE TO VOTE CAREER POLITICIANS OUT OF OFFICE AND GET NEW PEOPLE IN THAT ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THIS COUNTRY.

What is scary, Houston just voted in a Muslim City Councilman. What better way to take over a country without firing a single shot. -cee

2nd,

I agree.........makes me furious!

The shrub & OBL lawbreakers (oops, lawmakers) have deliberately delayed securing our border to get more and more illegal aliens and how many terrorists in this country!