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    When the ACLU sues an organization in some states like California the entity being sued has to pay all of their expenses if they prevail. That means the taxpayers are paying them to sue us. Also sometimes if the issue is something like a cross on government property the city or county or whoever will just remove the cross to avoid the expense and aggrivation. The ACLU bullies Americans and we can't really do anything about it.

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    Judge throws out RI racial profiling suit
    By Hilary Russ
    December 31, 2008
    PROVIDENCE, R.I.—A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit over a highway traffic stop of Guatemalan nationals that civil rights groups said was unconstitutional and an example of racial profiling.

    The state chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union said it will appeal Tuesday's decision from U.S. District Judge Mary Lisi.

    The traffic stop led to deportation orders against the illegal Guatemalan immigrants and prompted legislators to introduce an anti-racial profiling bill in 2007, though that bill died in committee.



    In July 2006, Rhode Island state trooper Thomas Chabot stopped a van carrying more than a dozen Guatemalan nationals on Interstate 95 for changing lanes without signaling.

    Though driver Carlos Tamup had a valid driver's license and registration and no criminal record, Chabot patted him down. Chabot asked for identification from his passengers, whom Tamup was taking to work in Westerly.

    When some of them couldn't produce identification, Chabot asked them for proof of U.S. citizenship.

    Troopers then escorted the van to a federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement office in Providence, where they were again briefly detained.

    The ACLU suit demanded punitive and compensatory damages as well as declaratory judgment that the immigrants' constitutional rights were violated.

    In her decision, Lisi said Chabot was justified in asking the Guatemalans for identification paperwork and immigration documents. She also said the ACLU's claim of racial profiling was unclear and not supported, and she found no "evidence of intentional race-based discrimination."

    Steve Brown, executive director of the Rhode Island ACLU, said Lisi's decision that Chabot did not violate a state law against racial profiling was "particularly startling."

    "This was a classic case of racial profiling," he said in a statement Wednesday. "The driver's license and registration were in perfect order, so the continued interrogation of the passengers was clearly based solely on their ethnicity."

    Then-State Police Superintendent Steven M. Pare, who was also named in the law suit, has said Chabot acted "professionally and appropriately" during the stop, and an internal probe cleared Chabot of any wrongdoing.

    Attorney General Patrick Lynch said in a statement Wednesday that Chabot only escorted the van to ICE's office after seeking advice from the federal immigration agency.

    "While the law enforcement community is sensitive to and must remain sensitive to immigration issues, they must also be able to do their jobs," Lynch said. "This ruling affirms that this case was a proper law enforcement action by a well-trained State Trooper."


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    Great update "FedUpinFarmersBranch" Thanks for bringing up the original post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FedUpinFarmersBranch
    Judge throws out RI racial profiling suit
    By Hilary Russ
    December 31, 2008
    PROVIDENCE, R.I.—A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit over a highway traffic stop of Guatemalan nationals that civil rights groups said was unconstitutional and an example of racial profiling.

    The state chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union said it will appeal Tuesday's decision from U.S. District Judge Mary Lisi.

    The traffic stop led to deportation orders against the illegal Guatemalan immigrants and prompted legislators to introduce an anti-racial profiling bill in 2007, though that bill died in committee.



    In July 2006, Rhode Island state trooper Thomas Chabot stopped a van carrying more than a dozen Guatemalan nationals on Interstate 95 for changing lanes without signaling.

    Though driver Carlos Tamup had a valid driver's license and registration and no criminal record, Chabot patted him down. Chabot asked for identification from his passengers, whom Tamup was taking to work in Westerly.

    When some of them couldn't produce identification, Chabot asked them for proof of U.S. citizenship.

    Troopers then escorted the van to a federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement office in Providence, where they were again briefly detained.

    The ACLU suit demanded punitive and compensatory damages as well as declaratory judgment that the immigrants' constitutional rights were violated.

    In her decision, Lisi said Chabot was justified in asking the Guatemalans for identification paperwork and immigration documents. She also said the ACLU's claim of racial profiling was unclear and not supported, and she found no "evidence of intentional race-based discrimination."

    Steve Brown, executive director of the Rhode Island ACLU, said Lisi's decision that Chabot did not violate a state law against racial profiling was "particularly startling."

    "This was a classic case of racial profiling," he said in a statement Wednesday. "The driver's license and registration were in perfect order, so the continued interrogation of the passengers was clearly based solely on their ethnicity."

    Then-State Police Superintendent Steven M. Pare, who was also named in the law suit, has said Chabot acted "professionally and appropriately" during the stop, and an internal probe cleared Chabot of any wrongdoing.

    Attorney General Patrick Lynch said in a statement Wednesday that Chabot only escorted the van to ICE's office after seeking advice from the federal immigration agency.

    "While the law enforcement community is sensitive to and must remain sensitive to immigration issues, they must also be able to do their jobs," Lynch said. "This ruling affirms that this case was a proper law enforcement action by a well-trained State Trooper."


    http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_ ... ling_suit/
    Since hispanic isn't a race, I just don't know how they even get off the start line with these baseless accusations. Why does the opposing attorney never bring up this fact??

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    The ACLU should be called the AMERICAN CLOWN LUNATIC UNION. They are a bunch of anti-American jokers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterbean
    The ACLU should be called the AMERICAN CLOWN LUNATIC UNION. They are a bunch of anti-American jokers.
    You know, I remember a time, decades ago, when I thought the ACLU was a good organization. They were gaining rights for minorities and I thought that was a good thing at the time. Was I wrong? Was I just too young to know trouble coming down the pike? Or were they really a good entity at one time????

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    Thank you FedUpinFarmersBranch for the update.

    Added to Homepage with new title 'ACLU lawsuit working on behalf of illegals dismissed'

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