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    Yikes!!! Just letting my anger at the whole situation turn into snarkiness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogo
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    Security at borders, ports and airports, punishments for employers hiring illegal immigrants, crackdowns on document forgers and sanctuary cities and repeal of benefits for illegal immigrants will cause people who entered America illegally to leave, Barletta said.

    I think this says it. I still think he's good. He's right if we repeal benefits to illegals then they will go. I'm not opposed to a guest worker program either IF it is set up with a bio-metric ID that has an expiration and GPS devise in it. If they stay and don't go home in the subscribed time then they are deported and never allowed back in. That is similar to a vineyard owner does here. He used the H-2 visas. Has them checked out, they come, work, go home. If they don't show up for the bus they can NEVER work on his property again. He's never had a problem and they come and go when time is up.

    Personally, dressing the vines and picking is VERY difficult. If people are willing to do that like the old Bracero Program, (THAT WORKED WELL) until Kennedy messed with it, then I don't have a problem with it. It's documentation and tracking and then no problem.
    Biometric ID systems for immigrants or illegal aliens will not work unless every American is in the system as well.

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    How do you figure that. IF our fingerprints our different, our irises or different, our DNA is different, you wouldn't need every American in the system.
    Because an illegal alien that has entered the country will not be in the biometric system database.

    Therefore, the illegal alien could easily claim to be an American citizen and claim that is why he/she is not in the biometric database.

    A biometric database for uses of identifying anyone that is in the country illegally or that should not be give access to a job or public benefit will on only work if all Americans and legal immigrants are in the biometric database.

    Sure, you can apply the biometric to id an illegal alien that was intercepted and then returned but other uses to determine future legal presence only works if every American is in the system.

    Right now, the Real ID act is attempting to place every American and legal immigrant and illegal alien into the biometric facial recognition technology program.

    That is why ALIPAC officially opposes biometric ID for Americans and opposes any new guest worker programs.

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    Ok we'll agree to disagree.
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