Thread: Bush Admin. talking to Mexicans about SPP, but not Americans

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Originally Posted by dlm1968

Sorry neese I neglected you question on our elections. I think it has been proven pretty conclusively that our elections can be tampered with. Have they been? Probably.

As far as the people electing the president...IF Hitlary were to win in 2008, I do not think I would ever be convinced that she won by a ligit vote of the American people. I think (hope) there are enough people inteligent enough to see that she is a communist. I just cannot accept bush-clinton-bush-clinton in the White House as a mere coincidence.

I agree, if Hiliary gets in and stays for 8 years that would be 28 years of clintons and Bushs.
I think if our forefathers had known these peoples families were all going to follow them into the white house, they would have worded term limit s alittle different , like 2 terms per family!!!

Canadian, U.S. and Mexican officials held secretive meeting on integration

Kelly Patterson, CanWest News Service; Ottawa Citizen
Published: Wednesday, February 07, 2007

OTTAWA - Canadian, U.S. and Mexican politicians discussed using "stealth" to overcome public resistance to the integration of the three countries at a confidential meeting last year, according to documents just released under U.S. Freedom of Information laws.

Top military brass, corporate executives and diplomats also attended the meeting in Banff, Alta., where participants discussed everything from the harmonization of food and drug standards, to common immigration policies, and the pooling of energy resources.

The secret guest list of the North American Forum included then-U.S. secretary of defence Donald Rumsfeld, Canadian Chief of Defence Staff Gen. Rick Hillier, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day, Pengrowth Corp. CEO James Kinnear and Lockheed Martin executive Ron Covais.

Presentation outlines for the forum acknowledge that the concept of North American integration - which some call a "North American Union" - is unpopular, and note that it might be tough to sell as a concept.

"While a vision is appealing, working on the infrastructure might yield more benefit and bring more people on board ('evolution by stealth')," the notes said.

"Evolution by stealth" means using regulatory changes, such as food- and drug-safety benchmarks, which don't require parliamentary approval, to lay the infrastructure for North American integration. This allows for change with little or no public debate, critics say.

Media were excluded from the September forum, and Day, who gave a speech at the event, declined to reveal the contents of his talk.

"It was meant as a private meeting," said Melisa Leclerc, a spokeswoman from Day's office, although she conceded he attended "in his capacity as minister for public security."

"It is not encouraging to see the phrase 'evolution by stealth' in reference to important policy debates such as North American integration," said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, a Washington-based conservative watchdog group that obtained the documents last week.

But, former finance minister John Manley, who attended the meeting, said the forum was "not part of a nefarious plan to yield sovereignty to the U.S. .... It was just some informed private citizens and government officials having a conversation" on how best to co-operate to ensure their citizens enjoyed a safe and prosperous future.

In fact, he said, Canada comes out stronger than ever from such meetings, which force "some senior American officials to think about Canada for a few days."

However, Maude Barlow of the Council of Canadians said the reference to stealth is "a very telling and important statement."

Many of the politicians who attended the forum have been pursuing "integration by stealth" for the past two years, she said, pointing to a little-known but top-priority agreement called the Security and Prosperity Partnership.

The accord, kickstarted by U.S. President George W. Bush, then-prime minister Paul Martin and former Mexican president Vicente Fox at a 2005 meeting in Waco, Texas, is designed to streamline everything from food and drug safety standards to counter-terrorism measures.

Government officials from the three countries are expected to meet in Ottawa later this month. However, Foreign Affairs spokespeople said they did not yet know when it would be held or who would attend.

The partnership's stated goal is to protect North America from security threats such as terrorism and flu pandemics as well as economic threats from new global-market giants such as China.

Many of the accord's measures are not contentious, such as plans to improve water quality, reduce sulphur in fuels, and co-ordinate efforts to fight pandemics and avian flu. But it also covers a host of hot-button issues such as plans to enhance data-sharing on high-risk travellers, revamp safety and environmental regulations, centralize the assessment of new chemicals and rework food safety standards.

Most of the 300 policy recommendations within the accord may not require legislative changes, the Council of Canadians said.

Ottawa Citizen
© CanWest News Service 2007

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Neese, it took me a long to decide for myself about this, and I am someone who is very much evidence-based in most everything I do. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories.

As others suggested, there is a very long list of articles in ALIPAC's archives on SPP, NAU, Council on Foreign Relations and related topics.

I can pass along a very helpful source. It is a 3 hour radio intervew last summer with Patrick Wood on the Laurie Roth show. He has researched and written extensively for many years on the global elites....these are the people behind this. He explains the way all of this has developed and the people involved. I would advise anyone who has the time to listen to this program. He does a good job of putting the pieces together and discusses where this is headed.

It can be found here:

http://www.augustreview.com/content/view/40/14/


There are also a couple good web sites that lay out the whole scenario:

http://www.channelingreality.com/NAU/NA ... e_Rel2.pdf
http://www.eagleforum.org/topics/NAU/
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... ntary_2006

KATE
you're killing me by slowwwwwwwww death, girl!

Love the new avatar too.

NEESE
this isn't a one man thing. This is a many decades long plan that has been worked on by many administrations. the baton is passed from one to the next and they each do their part to dismantle our Constitution.

The CFR is the basic policy maker in our country now and much is revealed in their documents.

HOWEVER, the CONGRESS is supposed to have been there to STOP insanity such as this. They have not done so in decades.
More of them have their hands in the proverbial pot to get their piece of the action/power.

CONGRESS should be taking the major part of the blame as they hold the keys and should be STOPPING this at each turn. Instead..........
how about SENATE S.9 COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM that is now sitting in the Judiciary?

How about the kennedy amendment that didn't make it into the Min. Wage bill but will, once again, resurface in another devastating piece of legislation. Possibly S.9????

Bush couldn't wipe his tush if Congress told him NO. And, as everyone can see, they're NOT.

Bush couldn't wipe his tush if Congress told him NO. And, as everyone can see, they're NOT.

Many, if not most in Congress are party to what is going on. The Senate especially is full of snakes.

The question that should be asked is why are public officials including the president have a need to hold secret meetings concerning the very sovereingty of our nation? If this is suppose to be all great and good for us (yeah right) then why doesn't he bring this up to the American people? I don't ever remember him mentioning this during the elections. What we have here is nothing more than a shadow government operating within our borders.

I've said this before as well as many others that this country just like the Roman Empire won't be destructed from an invading force, but from within our own borders.

I've been saying this before that if we don't act and hold these traitors accountable then we really have no one to blame for this, but ourselves. Those who do try I salute you, but those who continue to turn a blind eye and call names to anyone who stands up I will hold no sympathy whatsoever for you individuals. This nation is getting exactly what it deserves for their complete stupidity and laziness.

Originally Posted by April

CUUSA wrote:

IMPEACH and end all SPP activity and FIRE ALL THOSE INVOLVED!!


ABSOLUTELY!!!!

I DOUBLE THAT! IMPEACH Bush and Cheney!