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    This will not decrease immigration, but it will cause enormous turmoil and economic distress for the poor workers who wrongly lose their jobs due to erroneous government data or whose identity is borrowed by an undocumented immigrant who is desperate to work.
    Identity thieft is merely 'borrowing' according to the ACLU??????

    A jewel thief is only 'borrowing' the jewels..........
    The bank robber is only 'borrowing' the money........
    The car thief is only 'borrowing' the car.........
    The shop lifter is only 'borrowing' a couple items.............

    Everyone jailed for thieft needs to contact the ACLU and demand the ACLU represent them at new trial since they only 'borrowed' and didn't steal.
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    Is that why they call a gas siphon a Mexican credit card?
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    Note how even after this was announced today, administration officals are still lobbying for more guest workers/visas/amnesty. And interestingly they say it will take 3 years to "declare victory in immigration control" -- although we're continually warned about another mass amnesty attempt next year:
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    U.S. to erect more "virtual" border fences
    Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:02pm EDT

    By Randall Mikkelsen

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. officials announced plans for more high-tech border fencing and rules making it harder for federal contractors to hire illegal workers, but said on Monday it would take another three years to declare victory in immigration control.

    In an election-year update on immigration policies -- a simmering issue in this year's presidential campaign -- the Bush administration said its control efforts were making progress.

    But they said a major policy overhaul was needed to ensure there were enough immigrant workers for high-skilled technical jobs as well as low-skilled agricultural labor.

    "We simply do not have enough foreign workers at both ends of the spectrum," Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez said at a news conference with Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.


    President George W. Bush failed last year to get Congress to pass a comprehensive overhaul of immigration laws, which would have combined a crackdown on illegal immigration with a new guest-worker program.

    The administration instead imposed a patchwork of administrative measures and moved ahead with plans to construct 670 miles of barriers along the 2,000-mile (3,200 km) border with Mexico.

    Chertoff said the government had decided to award Boeing Co contracts to build two sections of a high-tech fence in Arizona.

    The new sections would be an "operational configuration" of a much-criticized 28-mile (45-km) "virtual fence" built by Boeing and tested earlier, Chertoff said.

    It would include fixed towers, radar and ground sensors, remote control cameras, and software linking border agents. Officials plan to deploy elements of the technology as needed elsewhere along the border.

    Chertoff dismissed earlier reports of deep trouble with the test section, which had been delayed by several months due to technical problems, including communications and software glitches and fuzzy video images.

    FEDERAL CONTRACTORS

    Chertoff also said the government would make all federal contractors participate in an electronic system to verify that employees are not illegal immigrants.

    The decision could affect hundreds of thousands or millions of workers, he said. The government has heavily promoted the "E-Verify" system, which is voluntary for other private employers.

    Gutierrez said the United States had a shortage of workers that it was having trouble filling with immigrants, despite steps to streamline paperwork.

    Some Republicans have criticized the party's presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, for not being tough enough against illegal immigration. Democratic candidate Sen. Barack Obama has called for more opportunities for legal immigration and for a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

    Chertoff said apprehensions this year of people trying to illegally cross the border were running about 16 percent behind last year's pace. That was a sign, he said, that fewer would-be immigrants were trying to cross, deterred by stricter enforcement and penalties.

    He said the U.S. goal remained on track to gain effective control of its borders by "sometime in 2011" -- at least two years after Bush leaves office.

    Also on Friday, the Justice Department inspector general reported that an FBI backlog in background checks had held up U.S. citizenship applications of tens of thousands of people.

    The report said the FBI's system of running background checks for names submitted by agencies including Citizenship and Immigration Services has been unable to cope with a surge of requests since the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States led to tightened security standards.

    Some Democrats have accused the Bush administration of stalling to limit new voters in the November 4 election.

    But FBI and immigration officials told reporters they were making gains on the backlog. They projected that by the end of November, the number of citizenship background checks that had been pending for more than a year would fall to about 20,000, compared with about 50,000 in March.

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    Bush signs E-Verify? There has to be a reason for this amnesty loving president to sign this into law. I wonder how it benefits Bush?
    I think Bush is paving the way for McCain. We all know McCain's stand on immigration. If Bush makes it appear that the republicans are tough on immigration, McCain will benefit. The "laws" are being enforced and McCain doesn't have to do a thing. He wins the hispanic vote because he still wants CIR and he wins the vote of the Americans who want something done about illegal immigration, because the fed is now "enforcing" the law. Brilliant!
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    ...it's almost to the point where even that angle isn't bothering me as much as long as this means that Bush's EO results in many, many self-repatriations and deportations in the coming months and thereafter.....we have to believe that AMNESTY will not be successful no matter how many times these pro-illegal alien advocates propose it.....we've beaten it back every single time AND Americans have finally woken up to the ills of illegal immigration and its effects on our society....

    Don't forget pro-amnesty BUSH, pro-Amnesty McCain, pro-amnesty Democratic Controlled Congress couldn't get it passed b/c AMERICANS were overwhelmingly against it..even their silly piece-meal schemes didn't work. Every month or so we have more and more states and local communitieis and yes, even law enforcement realizing that it's time to get serious about reducing illegal immigration and taxpayer sponsored benefits/services to illegal aliens. Fox and Calderon's meddling DIDN'T work...no amnesty for Mexican illegal aliens, reduced access to public benefits, AND no more unconditional give-aways of taxpayer funds for "drug crime fighting"....AND Bush signs this EO...boy, Calderon, FOX, the Institute for Mexicans Abroad, MALDEF, LA RAZA and all the other members of the illegal alien advocacy and profiteering cartel must be FUMING.

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    I'm still trying to figure out why Bush has done a complete 180!

    Maybe he has a guilty conscience because he sold his soul to the devil (the CFR and NAU) and now he realizes Mexico is NOT our friend. He has nothing to lose with only 6 months left...so he's trying to put his house in order...albeit way too late. He had a bizarro relationship with Fox, but I don't think he and Calderon are that friendly. Calderon doesn't wear cowboy boots!

    Whatever the reason...I hope it sends shock waves through Mexico and the US! I'm wondering if the next president can rescind Bush's executive order; and I'm wondering if this will affect the illegals who are already working for the Fed government. Is it retroactive, or does it only apply to new hires? I hope they are going to clean out all the illegals...past, present, and future.

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    While I don't believe Bush has done a complete 180, I'm pleased that he's taken some steps in the proper direction. But as noted above, he does want to pave the way to make another amnesty attempt more palatable and has been quite open about this.

    Although we have been successful in beating these further amnesty attempts so far, the OBL is PO'd and spending many millions in propaganda efforts and litigation to further their agenda. That's why it's imperative we elect and re-elect strong anti-amnesty pols to Congress such as Lou Barletta, Duncan D. Hunter, Jason Chaffretz, Elizabeth Dole etc.
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    This new rule change is open for public comment (60 days) if somebody could find the link. I have driven myself bonkers trying to find the darn thing!

    DHS Designates E-Verify as Employment Eligibility Verification System for All Federal Contractors
    Release Date: June 9, 2008

    For Immediate Release
    Office of the Press Secretary
    Contact: 202-282-8010

    The Department of Homeland Security today designated E-Verify, operated by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services in partnership with the Social Security Administration, as the electronic employment eligibility verification system that all federal contractors must use as required by Executive Order 12989, as amended. E-Verify is a free Internet-based system that allows enrolled employers to confirm the legal status of new hires within seconds.

    "A large part of our success in enforcing the nation's immigration laws hinges on equipping employers with the tools to determine quickly and effectively if a worker is legal or illegal," said Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. "E-Verify is a proven tool that helps employers immediately verify the legal working status for all new hires."

    President George W. Bush has amended Executive Order 12989 in order to direct all federal departments and agencies to require contractors, as a condition of each future federal contract, to agree to use an electronic employment eligibility verification system – designated by the Secretary of Homeland Security – to verify the employment eligibility of all persons hired during the contract term and all persons performing work within the United States on the federal contract.

    In response to this Executive Order, Secretary Michael Chertoff today designated E-Verify as the system of choice to ensure that the federal government only does business with companies that agree to verify the legality of their new hires and further, that the specific employees tapped to perform contract services in the United States for the federal government are authorized to work in this country. Federal departments and agencies within the executive branch are already enrolling with E-Verify to check the status of all new hires within the federal workforce. Agencies responsible for federal acquisition regulations (FAR) will send a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) to the Federal Register today soliciting public comment on proposed changes to these regulations. Comments will be accepted for 60 days.
    More than 69,000 employers currently rely on E-Verify to determine that their new hires are authorized to work in the United States. Employers have run more than 4 million employment verification queries so far in fiscal year 2008. Of those queries, 99.5 percent of qualified employees are cleared automatically by E-Verify.

    To view the Executive Order, please visit www.whitehouse.gov.

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    Again, I'm hearing that the E-verify does not, does not, detect stolen ID - it only verifies that the number belongs to a person eligible to work in the US.

    If so, this is much ado about nothing - worse. It is designed to make us think they are doing something when they are simply giving employers a loophole.
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