Thread: CA. Controller to suspend welfare checks

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Originally Posted by jean

Now this is encouraging news. Finally someone wants to address this sanctuary state.

Do you know, JohnDoe2, if this was published today? Checked the link and says the story is no longer found. :cry:

I know for sure that it's not from today. Seems like it's from several weeks ago. I'll see if I can find a date and another source if you would like.

Jean, new link:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sectio ... id=6042094

Jean,
and everyone else too:
When a link doesn't work try typing the headline in the GOOGLE search box, or some other search box, and click on go.
Many times it will take you right to the article. Sometimes it takes you to a very similar article.

Dang, it's from March? Had hoped they were discussing this now!!!

Isn’t it amazing that our government can’t link E-Verify with all these other systems? I mean, how much money would all of our local governments save by denying money and benefits to people who shouldn’t have them? I don’t even want to think of what the Federal government could save.

I’m a software engineer and know that this is doable. It probably wouldn’t even cost anything directly. California could get a firm that would just get paid on the money saved by doing this. Some sort of a percentage of the savings they had by not paying illegal aliens and other unauthorized recipients. I’m sure you’d have companies lining up for the challenge.

In this economy, with everyone crying for bailouts, it’s time to re-think this kind of stuff. Of course, this all sounds too easy and will probably label me a racist.

Its so simple. Deport all the illegal aliens in California and they would have billions of dollars left over.

If California suspends welfare checks for the illegals, they will just move to neighboring states to get benefits.

California doesn't have a 42 billion dollar deficit. It's more like 7 or 8. So where does that 42 number come from? It's a projection based on the assumption that nothing will be done about the budget until the end of 2010. California has at least 6 or 7 billion setting around in funds not currently being used. So why are they talking about 42 billion? Because its a scam. The politicians want to reward the unions and pet businesses with big contracts and raises etc. So they use propaganda to scare the public. As for cutting welfare...that's a good way to start the urban riots that the fascists want so they can turn the country into a police state and take away our rights like the right to own a gun.

Originally Posted by tinybobidaho

If California suspends welfare checks for the illegals, they will just move to neighboring states to get benefits.

They are probably already getting benefits in several states using different identities.

How big is California's budget hole? Try these numbers on for size

By Mike Zapler

Mercury News

Posted: 01/15/2009 07:20:07 PM PST

SACRAMENTO — If Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger were to fire every employee in state government tomorrow, it would easily patch California's enormous deficit, right? Not even close.

But surely shutting down all state prisons would do the trick? That, too, would only get him about a quarter of the way there.

Now what if he were to close every prison and cut off funding for health care and other services for the poor? Now we're in the ballpark.

Schwarzenegger on Thursday delivered his annual State of the State address, and there was only one topic on his mind: A budget deficit that's ballooned to $40 billion through mid-2010.

How does the average taxpayer begin to make sense of that sum? Not easily.

"It's like a number that's out there, but it's so big that it almost becomes meaningless," said Adrienne Gates, a 50-year-old San Jose resident who keeps fairly close tabs on news out of Sacramento. "It's like hearing stories about how fast the universe is expanding."

Even state lawmakers seem only now to be coming to grips with the enormity of their problem, after months of finger-pointing. No matter how big the shortfall got over the past year, Democrats and Republicans hewed to their long-held opposition to deep program cuts or tax increases.

It's been only this month, with the state literally on the verge of not being able to pay many of its bills, that signs have emerged that both sides realize they're going to have to make major concessions.

"There isn't a real will to hunker down until you have to," said Barbara O'Connor, director of the Institute for the Study of Politics and Media at Sacramento State University. "But it's reached the point where they don't have a choice. Polemics don't work."

Still, even a governor and Legislature in perfect ideological harmony would struggle to close a deficit this big. Consider that $40 billion is the amount the state shells out of its general fund each year for the public school system.

Payroll for California's roughly 230,000 civil servants tallies a mere $18 billion — not including legislative aides or people who work for the state's courts or university systems. (Those 149,000 additional folks aren't under the governor's control, but even if Schwarzenegger could fire them, their salaries wouldn't be enough to patch the $40 billion deficit.)

California's shortfall is larger than the entire yearly budget of every other state except New York. It exceeds the gross domestic product of more than 100 countries, including Syria, Costa Rica and Kenya. Closer to home, it's 40 times the size of San Jose's general operating fund, which pays for most of the city's basic services. And it's a devilish 666 times the size of San Jose's projected deficit of more than $60 million in the fiscal year that begins July 1.

In nongovernment terms, $40 billion would buy about 78,000 houses in Santa Clara County at the November 2008 median price of $515,000. That's almost half of all of San Jose's single family homes.

It's also $3 billion more than the combined net worth of Google co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page, according to Forbes. And $40 billion could purchase more than 500 Boeing 737-800s.

Of course, the governor and lawmakers aren't talking about buying airplanes. They're weighing cuts to programs that educate kids and help the needy, as well as tax increases at a time families are stretching to make ends meet.

"Because of the recession and the slide in the stock market, the deficit has grown so big, so quickly," said H.D. Palmer, a spokesman for Schwarzenegger's finance department. "And it's forced a menu of very difficult decisions to be put on the table."

Mercury News Staff Writers John Woolfolk and Edwin Garcia and News Research Director Leigh Poitinger contributed to this report.

Contact Mike Zapler at mzapler@mercurynews.com or (916) 441-4603

http://www.mercurynews.com/localnewshea ... i_11465543

There's no $42 billion dollar deficit in the first place. It's a projection. The real deficit is more like 7 to 8 billion. But it will get larger if nothing is done. The Calif State government has 6 to 7 billion setting around in funds not being used. Why are the politicians throwing out this 42 figure? Because they want more money for the unions and pet businesses that get large contracts and raises, etc.

Originally Posted by Justthatguy

There's no $42 billion dollar deficit in the first place. It's a projection. The real deficit is more like 7 to 8 billion. But it will get larger if nothing is done. The Calif State government has 6 to 7 billion setting around in funds not being used. Why are the politicians throwing out this 42 figure? Because they want more money for the unions and pet businesses that get large contracts and raises, etc.

People can live, and plan, paycheck to paycheck, but states can't. States must plan a year or two ahead, especially a state as big as California. If they don't have a solution for the problems they foresee in the next two years they must state the problem as it is. Just saying it isn't real won't make it go away.