Thread: Congress weighs one year extension for Obama/Trump DACA Program

Originally Posted by 6 Million Dollar Man

I didn't read the article, but what does that mean to leave them in limbo for another year? The way I interpret that is that they are going to legalize them for one more year until they can hammer out a permanent solution to give them full blown citizenship. I don't like this one bit. We are getting the wool pulled over our eyes. We are getting screwed.

No, they're in limbo because of no DACA fix. They start losing their work permits in March, so many a day fall out due to expired permits with no renewals. The lawsuit will extend that briefly until the US Supreme Court rules and hopefully ends this stupid shit once and for all. Politico is a DemoQuack on-line newspaper that has chosen a headline to grab clicks. No one is doing anything to extend it or pull the wool over anyone, it's just what it is, an expiring program. No more DACA, no more deferred status, just plain ole illegal aliens without work permits otherwise known as "the law" not "limbo".

We are getting the wool pulled over our eyes.

How did 800k (notably NOT VERIFIED AUTHENTIC) turn into 1.8 million with trump? Is he for real! The others are???????

It really seems this figure is presented in authenticity as to make "a deal". USA is not NYC - spell out the deal trump! Who exactly comprises the 1.8 million if only 800k with actually uncertified authenticity are DACA???????????Who are the extra tack-ons for your trump deal????

Congress has at least five options to address illegal alien DREAMers

Originally Posted by artist

How did 800k (notably NOT VERIFIED AUTHENTIC) turn into 1.8 million with trump? Is he for real! The others are???????

It really seems this figure is presented in authenticity as to make "a deal". USA is not NYC - spell out the deal trump! Who exactly comprises the 1.8 million if only 800k with actually uncertified authenticity are DACA??????????? Who are the extra tack-ons for your trump deal????

White House proposes path to citizenship for 1.8 million people ...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/politics/white-house-immigration.../index.html
Jan 26, 2018 - President Donald Trump is proposing giving 1.8 million young undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship in exchange for $25 billion for his ... But the proposal would also cover those undocumented immigrants who meet the DACA criteria but did not sign up and even more who would be newly eligible under the proposal's timeframe requirements -- giving legal status and a pathway to citizenship to about 1.8 million people. . .

A federal judge in California ordered the Department of Homeland Security to resume DACA, the program at the core of the ongoing battle.


The department is now operating DACA, waiting for the Supreme Court to issue the final verdict on its legality. That means the program may survive until sometime this summer, the earliest the court could rule, even without Congressional action.


@ https://www.alipac.us/f12/congress-has-least-five-options-address-illegal-alien-dreamers-355399/

Congress has at least five options to address illegal alien DREAMers

the proposal would also cover those undocumented immigrants who meet the DACA criteria but did not sign up and even more who would be newly eligible under the proposal's time frame requirements -- giving legal status and a pathway to citizenship to about 1.8 million people. .

So trump's figure of 1.8million includes those of a certain age and certain entry date - just like obama wrote it. It starts out as for those "brought by their parents thru no fault of their own". A few lines down it jumps to the age, entry date requirement.

If the extra 1.2 million did not sign up yet, HOW DO THEY NOW HOW MANY THERE ARE! It is a figure to make the deal more appealing and totally unnecessary, against the will of the people too.

Thought trump called obama's decree unlawful? trump is following it to a tee. Waiting for the DAPAs, anchor baby parents, to be brought into the mix too.

Originally Posted by Judy

No, they're in limbo because of no DACA fix. They start losing their work permits in March, so many a day fall out due to expired permits with no renewals. The lawsuit will extend that briefly until the US Supreme Court rules and hopefully ends this stupid shit once and for all. Politico is a DemoQuack on-line newspaper that has chosen a headline to grab clicks. No one is doing anything to extend it or pull the wool over anyone, it's just what it is, an expiring program. No more DACA, no more deferred status, just plain ole illegal aliens without work permits otherwise known as "the law" not "limbo".

If the U.S. Congress writes a law that protects them for another year and Trump signs it, there is nothing to be ruled on by the U.S. Supreme Court. The lawsuit you're talking about will become moot because they will be legally protected by lawfully designed program approved by the Congress and signed into law by Trump.

We all understand the current DACA program is unconstitutional and was created as policy, not actual law. A bill created by the U.S. Congress will be actual law and not something the Supreme Court can overrule. The court's ability to rule on a law passed by Congress and signed by the President is unconstitutional.

Any law passed by Congress that violates the US Constitution is unconstitutional and can be overturned by the US Supreme Court. Any law passed by Congress that grants amnesty of any kind to illegal aliens for violations of existing continuing law is unconstitutional because it violates the ex post facto clause as well as the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment and if it grants pathway to citizenship violates the uniform naturalization clause of the US Constitution.

Originally Posted by Judy

Any law passed by Congress that violates the US Constitution is unconstitutional and can be overturned by the US Supreme Court. Any law passed by Congress that grants amnesty of any kind to illegal aliens for violations of existing continuing law is unconstitutional because it violates the ex post facto clause as well as the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment and if it grants pathway to citizenship violates the uniform naturalization clause of the US Constitution.

It won't be unconstitutional if passed by the U.S. Congress and signed by President Trump. Obama didn't have that power when his administration issued a policy protecting illegals, however, Congress and Trump do have the power to pass law. If that happens there will be nothing for the U.S. Supreme Court to rule on. This is all so basic.

No that is wrong, MW. Congress is NOT above the Constitution, it is subject to it. Congress can not pass an unconstitutional law even when signed by a President and have it stand. The US Supreme Court can overturn it any law in the US whether passed by Congress or a state legislature if the court determines the law is unconstitutional. Where did you get the idea that the Congress is above the Constitution??!!!