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    "Some have a criticism of Ted and what he did in regards to this massive immigration bill," said Sessions. "Let me tell you, I was there. Every step of the way, Ted Cruz was on my side, and fought this legislation."
    There you have it. Sen. Sessions wouldn't say it was true if it wasn't. There is no man I respect more in the U.S. Congress than Sen. Jeff Sessions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    There you have it. Sen. Sessions wouldn't say it was true if it wasn't. There is no man I respect more in the U.S. Congress than Sen. Jeff Sessions!
    Cruz fought one provision, the pathway to citizenship provision by filing an amendment to remove it while retaining legalization. And he lost, his amendment failed and the bill passed with a Super Majority in the US Senate.

    The facts are the facts and Jeff Sessions needs to step back and walk away from this, because to give Senator Ted Cruz credit for something he didn't do, that House Republicans actually did because American voters largely Republicans demanded it, makes no sense and it will not fly, whether Sessions claims it, Steve King claims it or anyone else claims it. They are involving themselves to try to knock Rubio out of the race and while we would like to see Rubio out of the race, calling him a liar when he's telling the truth and claim Cruz is telling the truth when he's lying, is not how to do it.

    What Sessions is actually revealing is that the issue for some Senate Republicans like Cruz was citizenship and the political ramifications, not the harm it would cause to Americans, American Workers and American taxpayers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Cruz fought one provision, the pathway to citizenship provision by filing an amendment to remove it while retaining legalization. And he lost, his amendment failed and the bill passed with a Super Majority in the US Senate.

    The facts are the facts and Jeff Sessions needs to step back and walk away from this, because to give Senator Ted Cruz credit for something he didn't do, that House Republicans actually did because American voters largely Republicans demanded it, makes no sense and it will not fly, whether Sessions claims it, Steve King claims it or anyone else claims it. They are involving themselves to try to knock Rubio out of the race and while we would like to see Rubio out of the race, calling him a liar when he's telling the truth and claim Cruz is telling the truth when he's lying, is not how to do it.

    What Sessions is actually revealing is that the issue for some Senate Republicans like Cruz was citizenship and the political ramifications, not the harm it would cause to Americans, American Workers and American taxpayers.
    He's giving Cruz credit for something he attempted to do and that was kill the gang of eight amnesty bill! Yes, his attempt wasn't a success but at least he tried. If Sen. Sessions says Cruz had his back, then I'm going to believe him.

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    He's giving Cruz credit for something he attempted to do and that was kill the gang of eight amnesty bill! Yes, his attempt wasn't a success but at least he tried. If Sen. Sessions says Cruz had his back, then I'm going to believe him.
    Right, it was not a success. He also tried to pass other amendments that would double the number of green cards and increase by 5 times the number of H1B visas. He also stated under oath that he supported the bill that would legalize illegal aliens already in the country but without citizenship rights. They would still be able to remain the country, steal jobs from Americans, rob American kids of their seats in college, get drivers licenses and instate tuition, roam the country running drugs, killing and raping people, shipping our money out of the country, signing up for welfare, and all the things they do and cause that we're against.

    I mean if you support this candidate, that's fine. If you think he's evolved or experienced some epiphany in his race of career aspiration to be President, that's fine. You can support any candidate you want.

    But when you testify under oath that you support the Gang of Eight bill with your amendments and as such would not only legalize illegal aliens but dramatically increase legal immigration through your own amendments, then you supported amnesty and are pro-immigration.

    If you no longer support amnesty and are no longer pro-immigration because you're running for President and these positions are being soundly rejected by Republicans, then just tell the truth and say I no longer support amnesty and am no longer pro-immigration because I want to be President.

    Instead he lied to the American People during a debate and accused Marco of lying, when Marco was actually telling the truth and the Cruz Senate Hearing videos when he was speaking to the Senate under oath, prove that beyond any reasonable doubt. People have been sent to Death Row on far less.

    If Americans don't hold politicians accountable for their words and actions, then who will? Why do we want to support someone who stated under oath he supported the Gang of Eight bill, wanted it to pass, wanted illegal aliens to be able to remain in the US but not have citizenship rights, wanted dramatic increases in legal immigration levels, everything we're supposed to be against?

    I mean we throw people out of Congress for these positions and now some want to elevate one to President or Vice President?

    I don't understand that, but everyone is of course free to support whomever they want for whatever reason.
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    http://www.alipac.us/f12/ted-cruz-le...se-h1b-326332/

    http://www.alipac.us/f12/ted-cruz-in...-watch-326331/

    These are two of the Cruz Senate Hearing Videos referenced in posts above. These are of Cruz sworn testimony at Senate Hearings on some of his Amendments to the Gang of Eight Bill in 2013.
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    You need to go back and listen to what Sen. Sessions said on behalf of Sen. Cruz where the gang of eight amnesty bill is concerned. If you refuse to listen to him or worse yet, call him a liar, there is nothing anyone can say or do that you'll hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    You need to go back and listen to what Sen. Sessions said on behalf of Sen. Cruz where the gang of eight amnesty bill is concerned. If you refuse to listen to him or worse yet, call him a liar, there is nothing anyone can say or do that you'll hear.
    I heard Ted Cruz in his own words under oath giving sworn testimony at US Senate Hearing Committees and then not under oath at the debate on December 15. Jeff Sessions may not have been at the hearings. Maybe he's not seen the videos. Maybe he didn't watch the debate Tuesday night. Whatever the issue is, I'm not going to rely on anything Jeff Sessions says about Ted Cruz because I've already heard it directly out of Ted's own mouth, and don't need Jeff to speak for him.

    I'm an adult, I don't need someone else to tell me what someone else thinks, believes, did, intended or meant to do. I'm perfectly satisfied with my ability to process the words of Ted Cruz in 2013 and then on December 15, 2015 and draw my own conclusion.

    Like I said earlier on one of these threads, in my opinion, Jeff needs to step back and walk away.
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