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    Deported U.S. Military Veterans Demonstration at Playas De Tijuana

    Deported U.S. Military Veterans Demonstration at Playas De Tijuana

    Veterans Without Borders, Banished Veterans and Coalicion Humanitaria Promigrante CHIP gathered in demonstration to promote a petition requesting Congress and the Obama administration to bring deported military veterans back home to the United States. The demonstration took place in front of the veterans distress flag mural on the Mexico/U.S. border wall, in Playas de Tijuana, last Sunday, March 30th at 1pm.

    The deported veterans and their supporters were on site to raise awareness about the deportation of U.S. military veterans and garnering signatures for the “bring us home” petition which needs to reach the threshold of 100,000 signatures in 30 days to gain an audience with Congress and a response from the administration in its regard.

    On April 5, they also participated along with several other organizations, in the 2million 2many bi-national event. The rally was to promote the reunification of over 2 million families across the nation. The demonstration took place at the Tijuana/San Ysidro international border crossing. The deported veterans and their supporters were on site to raise awareness about the separation of millions of families and the deportation of U.S. military veterans as well as the garnering of signatures for the “bring us home” petition.

    The petition reads as follows:

    Halt all deportation actions against lawful permanent residents who were veterans of the United States Armed Forces
    Lawful permanent residents have been conscripted and have served in the Armed Forces of the United States since the Revolution. Only since 1996, has the INA deprived an Immigration Judge when deciding whether a lawful permanent resident should be deported from considering his military service. Since non-citizen service members are treated for all purposes as United States nationals when in uniform, we believe the same principle should apply when the uniform comes off. We request that the Department of Homeland Security stop the deportation of veterans of the United States and that it grant parole to permit those veterans already deported to return to have their cases reconsidered.

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    They are deported if they are Green Card holders and are arrested for a serous crime.

    Veterans deported for crimes banished for life

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    Posted on January 17, 2014 at 11:29 PM
    Updated Saturday, Jan 18 at 11:29 AM

    CIUDAD JUAREZ -- About 35,000 non-citizens are in the U.S. military, but some of those who served proudly have been deported to Mexico and other countries because they broke the law.
    “They deported me for life,” said Arturo Quinonez, sitting in his living room in Ciudad Juarez.

    There’s an NFL sports program previewing the playoff games on television. Hanging on the wall are photos of Quinonez in his Navy uniform next to a certificate showing he was honorably discharged.

    He served eight years, including time in a conflict zone during the Balkan Wars.

    “We were there enforcing a no-fly zone. We were the only ship there at that time," Quinonez said.
    His friend Juan Valadez joined the Navy in 2000.

    “I joined the Navy as soon as I graduated high school. I was always in ROTC and all that stuff," said Valadez.

    His time in the military included the years after the 9/11 attack.

    “We were on an amphibious assault ship. I was off the coast of Yemen. We were doing special ops right there,” said Valadez.

    Years later, the two men met in Mexico while working at a customer service call center where they got jobs making $100 a week answering complaints from U.S. cell phone customers.

    It was the first job they could find after being deported in 2007 from the U.S., the country they consider home.
    “I’m banned for life. Can’t go back,” said Valadez.

    He and other veterans were banished because they ran into trouble with the law after they got out of the military.

    Valadez was convicted on drug charges in El Paso and spent two years behind bars.

    “As soon as I got out, immigration was there to pick me up. They shackled me back up and took me to a detention center,” said Valadez.

    He was deported three months later.

    Quinonez also spent time behind bars after he was caught smuggling marijuana across an international bridge. He spent two years in prison.

    “I was having money troubles, and yes, it was very easy money,” said Quinonez. “I did jail time. I should have paid with that."

    But green card holders who break the law face deportation.

    “I’m not trying to excuse my crime," said Valadez. “I did the time, and basically, it’s a double punishment.”

    No government agency tracks the number of veterans deported, but the organization Banished Veterans estimates at least 4,250 non-citizens who served in the U.S. military have been deported since 1996.
    “We feel abandoned,” said Hector Barajas, one of the founders of the group who now lives in Tijuana.
    “I miss my family,” said Barajas. He has an 8-year-old daughter in California.

    Veterans can return to U.S. soil in a coffin. Those who are honorably discharged are entitled to a military burial in the United State

    Many veterans now living in Mexico choose border cities so they can be close to their families in the United States.

    Quinonez’s wife and children often visit him on weekends.

    He started a small maintenance business with skill he learned in the Navy and drives around Juarez in a pickup truck with "disabled veteran" and American flag stickers on his window.

    His dog tags hang from his rear view mirror.

    “I’m still proud,” he said.
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    Drug cartels recruiting US military veterans

    Posted: Feb 03, 2014 10:00 PM CSTUpdated: Apr 08, 2014 5:14 PM CDT
    By Morgan Loew


    TIJUANA, MEXICO (CBS5) -The former U.S. Marine lives in a tiny apartment just 500 yards south of the Mexican border with the United States.

    Since he was deported from the United States, he's earned less than $100 per week, working in a market and as a personal trainer.

    But the skills he learned in the desert of Iraq, fighting for the United States during wartime, could earn him thousands of dollars per job, if he only agrees to work for the drug cartels.

    "I was a grunt, a machine gunner. So here, the cartels, they know that," said the Marine who's name CBS 5 Investigates is concealing for his protection.

    He agreed to speak to CBS 5 Investigates about his experience in Mexico and what keeps him there, the fact that although he joined the U.S. Marine Corps and fought for the United States, he was not a U.S. citizen.

    "I thought I was automatically a citizen because I went to war. It never occurred to me that I had to fill out some kind of paperwork," he said.

    When he returned from war, his life was engulfed by alcohol, drugs and fights.

    "I thought I was fine. Obviously, I never got to see a psychologist, a counselor or someone who could guide my way," he said.

    So, 20 years after he enlisted in the Marines, he found himself deported to Mexico, a country he had not been to since he was 14 years old.

    He struggles to survive and to fend off the recruiters for the local drug cartel.

    "They're very persistent. You get death threats if you don't cooperate, which I don't. I was trained by the Marine Corps, the best training in the world," he said.

    Along the U.S. border with Mexico, similar stories have emerged, with current and former military members tempted by the money offered by the drug cartels.

    A review of court records across the Southwest shows at least four service members have been charged with working for, or attempting to work for the cartels as hit men. There are no studies or statistics to show how widespread the problem might be.

    The former Marine who spoke to CBS 5 Investigates said it's common for deported veterans to be recruited. He said some do it for the money. A contract killing can earn a veteran upward of $5,000. Others do it out of fear.

    "It wouldn't surprise me if some do it because they're afraid," he said.
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    Claiming ignorance doesn't work. Bush signed an Executive Order on July 3, 2002, that gave expedited citizenship to non US citizens in the military. After that was signed, I am sure that the military made sure that the troops knew about it and used it as a recruiting tool.

    Expedited Naturalization Executive Order
    Executive Order Expedited Naturalization of Aliens and Noncitizen Nationals Serving in An Active-Duty Status During the War on Terrorism

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 329 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1440) (the "Act"), and solely in order to provide expedited naturalization for aliens and noncitizen nationals serving in an active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States during the period of the war against terrorists of global reach, it is hereby ordered as follows:

    For the purpose of determining qualification for the exception from the usual requirements for naturalization, I designate as a period in which the Armed Forces of the United States were engaged in armed conflict with a hostile foreign force the period beginning on September 11, 2001. Such period will be deemed to terminate on a date designated by future Executive Order.

    Those persons serving honorably in active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States, during the period beginning on September 11, 2001, and terminating on the date to be so designated, are eligible for naturalization in accordance with the statutory exception to the naturalization requirements, as provided in section 329 of the Act. Nothing contained in this order is intended to affect, nor does it affect, any other power, right, or obligation of the United States, its agencies, officers, employees, or any other person under Federal law or the law of nations.

    July 3, 2002.

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    None of these were deported for jaywalking type of charges but serious charges such as transporting drugs across international borders. Maybe they should read the rules for Naturalization that status can be revoked for criminal behaviour. But it does take serious charges AND a conviction.
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