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    DHS Kelly says he’s not deporting Dreamers, suggests Congress grant full legalization

    DHS Secretary Kelly says he’s not deporting Dreamers, suggests Congress grant full legalization

    By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Wednesday, June 7, 2017

    Homeland Security Secretary John F. Kelly said Wednesday that his agents are not actively trying to deport illegal immigrant Dreamers approved for tentative status President Obama’s 2012 deportation amnesty, and suggested Congress should find a way to grant them full legalization.


    Mr. Kelly
    declined to take a position on whether the program is legal, saying only that he’s heard from both sides of the debate over the amnesty program, known as DACA, or Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals.


    “We are not, not, not targeting DACA registrants right now,” Mr. Kelly told the House Homeland Security Committee.


    He went on to say he gets “beat up a lot” by both Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill who say he should leave Dreamers alone. He said it’s up to them to pass a more permanent solution.

    “I am hoping frankly because there is bipartisan support … for doing something about DACA legally, legislatively,” Mr. Kelly said.


    Under the 2012 amnesty illegal immigrants could gain tentative legal status if they came to the U.S. as children, were in the country by 2007, were 30 or younger as of 2012 and have pursued their high school diploma. DACA recipients were granted work permits entitling them to Social Security numbers, driver’s licenses and other taxpayer benefits.


    More than 760,000 people had been approved under the program by the end of 2016, and Mr. Kelly’s department is continuing to process new applications and renewals, which must be submitted every two years.

    Many Republicans have argued the program is an illegal use of executive power. Mr. Obama himself repeatedly said he didn’t have this kind of authority — until he made an election-year reversal in June 2012, suddenly discovering he did in fact have powers to grant a get-out-of-jail-free card to an entire category of illegal immigrants.


    Mr. Obama tried to expand the program to as many as 5 million illegal immigrants in 2014 and to change the registration dates, but federal courts have blocked that expansion. They have not overturned the original DACA program, however.


    Dreamers have long been the most sympathetic cases in the immigration debate, having in most cases been brought to the U.S. by parents with no say in the decision. Some have been here since they were babies or toddlers, and don’t have any ties to their countries of citizenship.


    Immigrant-rights advocates say they fear the Trump administration is targeting Dreamers for deportation, pointing to several high-profile cases including one out of Washington State where immigration authorities say the young man has gang ties that make him ineligible, and another case in Georgia where a young woman is fighting deportation.


    In that case, the woman was approved for the program by the Obama administration even though she had a conviction for lying to a police officer on her record. The Trump administration says that conviction makes her ineligible under the terms of the program, so she is a target for removal.


    Mr. Kelly
    said Dreamers who are being deported either have violated the terms of DACA or else had been eligible but never applied or let their applications lapse, making them subject to deportation.


    “When they came into our hands they’re not DACA and we put them into proceedings,” the secretary said.


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-deporting-dr/
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    Secretary Kelly is an amnesty supporter. Of course we already knew that because he has commented in the past about wanting congress to legalize those enrolled in DACA. Combine this with Trump's failure to end DACA and the wishes of the White House become clear. They're just waiting on the U.S. Congress to put a legalization bill on Trump's desk.
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    No, this can not happen. No "legalization" for DREAMERS. Nope. Nada. Zero. Zip.
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    Trump Quietly Continues Obama’s ‘Catch and Release’ at Border

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    by BRANDON DARBY 31 May 2017 612

    President Donald J. Trump is allowing former President Barack Obama’s “catch and release” of illegal immigrants to continue deep into his administration’s term with no end in sight to the controversial open borders protocol. Border Patrol agents are once again sounding the alarm and alerting the public about the separation between DC’s rhetoric and the realities on the U.S.-Mexico border — a practice that the agents hoped would become unnecessary under the Trump Administration.

    Though Trump’s interior enforcement of U.S. immigration laws has resulted in far fewer illegal crossings at the border, agents say that low numbers will not be sustained because the Trump Administration has not actually made substantial changes within border security as a whole.

    Border Patrol Agent Brandon Judd, President of the National Border Patrol Council (NBPC), spoke with Breitbart Texas on Trump’s quiet continuation of Obama’s catch and release. He stated, “Obama’s catch and release is definitely continuing and our government is releasing illegal aliens into U.S. communities. The steps taken for such releases have slightly changed and the numbers are not as high, but it is still occurring. Under Trump, ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] is holding more illegal aliens than what they did under Obama, but make no mistake, ICE is still releasing a good number of illegal aliens into U.S. communities. Americans need to know this.”


    Though Trump ordered catch-and-release to end and despite claims from the Justice Department that the protocol is now over, the data show that it simply has not ended. One news site touted the program as over yet further reading in the same article shows it was simply reduced a bit.


    Border Patrol Agent Judd cautioned against media spin on the issue. He stated, “Again, Americans need to know the facts here. They need to know that a decrease in the numbers of illegal aliens released does not mean the program is over.

    Outlets or leaders making such claims only serve to reduce the accurate information that Americans need to make decisions.”

    Agent Judd continued, “Illegal aliens are being released into U.S. communities just as they were under President Obama.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/...elease-border/


    Brandon Darby is managing director and editor-in-chief of Breitbart Texas. He co-founded the Cartel Chronicles project with Ildefonso Ortiz and Stephen K. Bannon. Follow him on Twitter and Facebook. He can be contacted at bdarby@breitbart.com.


    (Disclosure: Breitbart Texas sponsored the Green Line podcast for the NBPC in an effort to provide a platform for agents to inform the public about the realities on the border and what Border Patrol agents face. Director Brandon Darby received an award from the Laredo chapter of the NBPC for his work in helping to defend and bring a voice to Border Patrol agents. Breitbart News assisted in covering funeral costs for a slain Border Patrol agent previously.)
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    Mr. Kelly said Dreamers who are being deported either have violated the terms of DACA or else had been eligible but never applied or let their applications lapse, making them subject to deportation.

    “When they came into our hands they’re not DACA and we put them into proceedings,” the secretary said.
    Yes, that's right. Just keep doing what you're doing, but don't suggest to Congress any more that they should do a bill to legalize illegal aliens, your opinions if this is one, is not the President's, his Supporters, most Republicans or most Voters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Yes, that's right. Just keep doing what you're doing, but don't suggest to Congress any more that they should do a bill to legalize illegal aliens, your opinions if this is one, is not the President's, his Supporters, most Republicans or most Voters.
    I think you're wrong on this. I honestly feel President Trump would support a DACA amnesty bill if it were passed through the U.S. Congress.
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    He may. We don't know. We won't know until there is a bill and he either signs it or vetoes it. Hopefully that moment won't come because there will never be a bill passed by Republicans that would do such a thing. I'm hopeful our US House of Representatives would kill any such Nasty Amnesty Bill.
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    Amnesty is the plan according to someone meeting regularly with the White House and Congress.

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