Thread: E-Verify doesn't prevent many companies from hiring undocumented workers

Originally Posted by Judy

Sure! I'm all for "clamping" down on employers who hire illegally, I just don't want to see them go to prison, I prefer to see them fined.

How much? To a small employer or company, a $10,000 fine could put them out of business. But to a large employer/company, it would just be the cost of doing business. If each had to serve a week in jail, there would be an equity of the punishment. The little guy would lose a little money, but the big guy would lose a lot of money. The great equalizer!

Originally Posted by Judy

It was just a great time for our country when they were going strong.

Yes, our economy was stronger, and unions took advantage of that. But when things got bad, the unions would not give an inch. That led to a lot of layoffs.

Originally Posted by Judy

Things have gotten very messed up since union membership has dropped, free trade treason and open borders among them.

But did union membership drop because unions got too greedy? Look at cities that have gone bankrupt or are facing bankruptcy because public union contracts have cost too much money?

The union membership rate—the percent of wage and salary workers who were members of unions—was unchanged at 10.7 percent in 2017, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. The numberof wage and salary workers belonging to unions, at 14.8 million in 2017, edged up by 262,000 from2016.

In 1983, the first year for which comparable union data are available, the union membership ratewas 20.1 percent and there were 17.7 million union workers. Jan 19, 2018

Union Members—2017 - Bureau of Labor Statistics

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/union2.pdf

Mollie Tibbetts murder suspect, illegal alien Cristhian Rivera, passed E-Verify

More proof that E-Verify doesn't work....

Mollie Tibbetts Murder Suspect Cristhian Bahena Rivera ‘Passed E-Verify Background Check’

HANDOUT / REUTERS

The farm that employed the man suspected of murdering 20-year-old University of Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts has claimed he passed a government background check and that the company had no idea that he was an illegal immigrant. The status of suspect Cristhian Bahena Rivera has come under scrutiny after President Trump directly blamed immigration laws for the alleged murder. But Yarrabee Farms, which is owned by Craig Lang, a prominent member of the Republican Party in Iowa, said in a statement: “This individual has worked at our farms for four years, was vetted through the government’s E-Verify system, and was an employee in good standing.” E-Verify is an online system run by the government for employers to check the eligibility of its workers. It’s unclear how Rivera could have passed the system—he’s an undocumented immigrant from Mexico, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and a detainer warrant was issued for him Tuesday.

I saw on the World News tonight that his employer did NOT use E-Verify. I guess he lied the first time. But still, E-Verify isn't foolproof and needs to be worked on.

Originally Posted by 6 Million Dollar Man

I saw on the World News tonight that his employer did NOT use E-Verify. I guess he lied the first time. But still, E-Verify isn't foolproof and needs to be worked on.

They clarified they called Social Security Administration to verify the social security number. Whether they did or not, don't know. An examination of their payroll taxes withheld and paid on this employee will shed some light. They should not have hired him, and the state that issued him a state photo ID should have never issued him one, and he should have never been allowed into the country or allowed to remain here by the federal government. Much blame to go around.

Originally Posted by 6 Million Dollar Man

I saw on the World News tonight that his employer did NOT use E-Verify. I guess he lied the first time. But still, E-Verify isn't foolproof and needs to be worked on.

Very few things in life are 100% bullet proof. However, E-Verify is said to be more than 90% accurate. I guess any verification system can be fooled with someone else's documents, fake documents, or forged ones. To actually believe we would be better without E-Verify than we would be with it doesn't make much sense to me. We need the program nationally mandated where every business is using it, not only those that volunteer to do so. It stands to reason that those not using the program are probably the companies hiring the bulk of illegals.

Eventually people will figure out that the purpose of E-Verify is not to verify illegal aliens from work, it's to verify US citizens to work, the complete opposite of what needs to be done.

Originally Posted by Judy

Eventually people will figure out that the purpose of E-Verify is not to verify illegal aliens from work, it's to verify US citizens to work, the complete opposite of what needs to be done.

If it is capable of verifying a US Citizen to work, then what is kicked back should be classified as illegal or at least investigated, so it should work both ways.