Thread: E-Verify Let 12 million Illegal Hires Happen Since 2006—80% of Attempts

Originally Posted by Judy

E-Verify may have started out with a noble purpose, unlikely, but possible, but it is not there to stop illegal immigration, it's there to develop a massive database to track US citizens. That's been my opinion of it for a long time.

The strategies against illegal immigration aren't working. Need a new plan.

The information you're talking about is already in governmental databases.

The information isn't in a DHS database. Presently, DHS can't access that information. With E-Verify they will have the information, the same DHS you claim is selling out our country. Why would you give them your personal information? They're supposed to be tracking illegal aliens, not US citizens.

Originally Posted by Judy

The information isn't in a DHS database. Presently, DHS can't access that information. With E-Verify they will have the information, the same DHS you claim is selling out our country. Why would you give them your personal information? They're supposed to be tracking illegal aliens, not US citizens.

Any and all information stored in a government database is always susceptible of being interchanged and/or accessed by various federal agencies to conduct background checks to ascertain someone is who they say they are and is representing themselves properly. E-Verify is just another type of employment background check. A lot of employers do a background check on potential or current employees and various databases are used for these checks. To make out like E-Verify is some huge magic database that is designed to damage are hurt you in some way is just wrong.

Various database checks that are routinely done:

- Employment Background Checks.
- Criminal Background Checks.
- Universal Background Checks.
- OIG Background Checks.
- E-Verify Background checks.
- Fingerprint Background Checks
- International Background Checks.
- Credit Background checks.
- Personal Background Checks.
- Professional Licenses Background Checks.


When did I claim DHS was selling out our country? I have implied or directly said that President Trump is selling us out to corporations and big business, but I've never directly accused DHS of doing it. The buck stops with Trump, he ultimately controls DHS. The Secretary of DHS is his hand-picked hire. If Trump wasn't okay with DHS issuing work permits in 30-50 days when the law calls for 180 days, it wouldn't be happening. Of course that's another discussion. Watching you make make up your own facts to defend Trump is getting tiresome.

DHS doesn't need this information and shouldn't have it. SSA should be the only entity to verify a social security number for employment purposes.

It's funny how you think I "defend Trump" by pointing out important information in an article posted by someone else that corrected your erroneous narrative. It wouldn't matter who is President, you were wrong on your narrative because you didn't read the whole article. But don't worry, I won't waste my time on you in the future, because in the long game, it won't matter.

Originally Posted by Judy

DHS doesn't need this information and shouldn't have it. SSA should be the only entity to verify a social security number for employment purposes.

It's funny how you think I "defend Trump" by pointing out important information in an article posted by someone else that corrected your erroneous narrative. It wouldn't matter who is President, you were wrong on your narrative because you didn't read the whole article. But don't worry, I won't waste my time on you in the future, because in the long game, it won't matter.

Shows how lacking your knowledge really is on E-Verify. The SSN submitted for E-Verify is ran through the Social Security Administrations database. This is not information DHS has a personal database on.

DHS and SSA work together on the E-Verify checks. So, in the end, nothing is happening here that goes against what you say you want.

I want an employer to simply contact SSA to verify a social security number for employment purposes. DHS should have no role in it, at all. Oh wait, that happens now with the I-9 form, which is why we don't need E-Verify in DHS. SSA will notify the employer if the employee has a "bad" number with a "no match letter". Problem solved.

I don't support E-Verify through DHS, period. You will not change my mind.

Originally Posted by Judy

I want an employer to simply contact SSA to verify a social security number for employment purposes. DHS should have no role in it, at all. Oh wait, that happens now with the I-9 form, which is why we don't need E-Verify in DHS. SSA will notify the employer if the employee has a "bad" number with a "no match letter". Problem solved.

I don't support E-Verify through DHS, period. You will not change my mind.

Nope, wrong again. I-9 Forms do not require a social security number.

I'm not attempting to change your mind. However, I am correcting some things you're obviously misinformed on.

DHS does not have or store your SSN.