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    As far as I'm concerned, they can isolate themselves right back across the border.
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    How about this then, learn to speak English before you come here. Learn to speak English while you are here. Assimilate into our society and you won't isolate yourselves at all.
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    The source article is from a college newspaper written by a college senior and my guess would be she has little if any life experiences and pretty much goes along with anything "our" Education System feeds her as her point of reference. Most likely she has heard only one side of the ILLEGALS invasion story. Of course she has read all of the SOB stories and she did point out "The chambers of commerce in Tennessee’s four biggest cities – Nashville, Chattanooga, Knoxville and Memphis – sent a letter to lawmakers in opposition of a bill that would require citizens take the written portion of drivers’ exams in English.". We do know that the C of C does not have a self serving agenda!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    English-only testing will further isolate Hispanics
    I didn't know hispanics were isolated to begin with. I guess Krissy Mallory has never been to California.

    Oh...they're not living in the shadows either Krissy, just in case you wanted to use that cliche for your next headline...
    So true. In California these people isolate themselves as far as language. They have no intention of learning English. They are now in the public like never before. We need to force them back to the shadows.
    We recognize that if you really want to create a job tomorrow, you can remove an illegal alien today

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    They should not be able to drive any way. Illegal aliens should not be catered to. My brother recently went to the DMV to get his permit and was unable to because he did not have his actual birth certificate. He only had a copy. Yet these illegals come here without any documentation and still get licenses.
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    Thank you for posting comments on this article. I am posting comments at sites too. The Tennessean news outlet has quite a few articles recently on the English legislation that Rep. Eric Watson wants passed for the protection of Tennesseans. The Tennessean is a mouthpiece for open borders and local ethnocentric groups. Rep. Watson is under all out assault from business and special interests for attempting to get this through.

    Please call or email Eric Watson to offer support. 350 million dollars goes to illegal immigration in Tennessee. Translations for driving and ballots cost taxpayers in every state. Each state needs to know that people out there want this. When the noises are so loud from open borders, special interests, it can seem lonely. But we do need good men to step forward, and to stand strong.


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    (quote)

    Guest editorial: Driver bill faulty, motives dishonest

    By Stephen Fotopulos • March 28, 2010

    The "English-only" driving exam bill is exactly the
    type of legislation that makes Tennesseans cynical
    of government.

    The sponsors of the bill would have us believe that
    they are eliminating translations of the driving test
    because they care about safety. As it turns out, the
    bill being considered doesn't actually eliminate
    translations, and it has never had anything to do
    with safety. Before our representatives vote for a bill
    that harms the reputation of our state, let's be sure
    to ask them why.

    Let's first dispense with the notion that drivers who
    take translated tests are less safe than anyone else.
    The state Department of Safety has testified year after
    year that there are no statistics to back up this
    claim. Road signs are international by design, which
    is why Americans can travel to foreign countries and
    rent a car without speaking the local language.
    Furthermore, no matter in which language an
    applicant takes the test, they must demonstrate
    knowledge of road signs in English and pass the
    hands-on portion in English. That is why all but a
    handful of Midwest states offer translated tests, and
    Georgia and Alabama offer the test in over 10
    languages.

    Please ask your representatives: If safety is the
    issue, shouldn't we also prevent foreign tourists
    from renting cars at the Nashville airport?

    Once the safety argument falls apart, some
    supporters actually suggest the bill is designed to
    help immigrants. As state Sen. Delores Gresham

    asserted last week to the astonishment of immigrant
    leaders, "This bill embraces everyone. It says,
    'Come, be like us. Speak English.'"

    English classes are overflowing

    But immigrants don't need government bureaucrats
    to tell them that learning English is important. That
    is why English classes across the state are filled
    beyond capacity, with long waiting lists of eager
    immigrant students. What immigrants need is a little
    time to learn, and a way to get to work, feed their
    families and drive their kids to school in the
    meantime. This "English-only" bill promises instead
    to isolate immigrants, making it far less likely that
    they will learn English quickly. Please ask your
    representatives: If a newly settled refugee cannot get
    a driver's license, how is she going to drive to her
    English classes?


    These questions presume that the bill actually does
    what it says. The truth is, House and Senate
    sponsors have amended the bill to allow most
    translations to continue. The amended bill says that
    translations are perfectly fine for foreign visitors
    who are "investing ... or providing needed services
    to companies or businesses." Translations are OK if
    a foreign national is deemed valuable for "economic
    and community development." In other words,
    German carmakers can take a translated test, but
    Kurdish refugees are on their own. The spouse of a
    Japanese executive can take a translated test, but the
    Korean wife of a U.S. serviceman now has to walk to
    the grocery store. Please ask your representatives: If
    it's unsafe for someone not fluent in English to
    drive, why does it matter if he's rich?

    If the bill did nothing at all, our representatives
    would merely be wasting time and taxpayer dollars.
    Unfortunately, the bill's genuine accomplishment is
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    to hang a big sign on the door of our state saying
    that people from other countries make us
    uncomfortable. It says that we'll tolerate those same
    foreigners if they bring us enough money, but not if
    they're here to escape religious persecution or to
    build a new life for their families. It says we are less
    welcoming than Alabama and Georgia.

    That is why ProEnglish, the same anti-immigration
    group that funded Eric Crafton's English-only
    campaign in Nashville, has testified twice in
    committee in favor of this legislation. If these are the
    reasons we are passing an "English-only" bill, if this
    is what we really mean to say about our state, we
    should at least be honest about it.

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    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20100 ... 01/3280342
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    I work for an insurance company, and I can tell you honestly that about 7 out of 10 times a Hispanic gets into an accident, they come into our office and say "I could not read the road signs, I do not read English." WTF???!!! So when they see a sign that says "Icy conditions ahead" or "Children at Play" they don't understand to slow down?

    We are losing our country to people who refuse to obey the laws of our land. If you can't pass the written portion of the driver's test, you get no license. Whether you can read English or not. If an American citizen fails the written portion, the fail. If a Spanish-speaking person who does not understand English fails the written portion, well they fail too. Simple as that.
    Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"........

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    Editorial: English-only goes
    statewide

    Narrow agenda risks diversity, economy

    March 28, 2010

    Our View

    Whether driven by election-year politics or by
    sincere personal resentments, the latest statewide
    efforts to limit driver's license exams and workplace
    discourse to English are unfair and harmful to
    Tennessee's economy.

    One bill before the General Assembly states that
    private businesses may require only English be
    spoken in their workplace; the other would require
    written driver's license exams be in English.
    Currently in Tennessee, the exams also are available
    in Spanish, Korean and Japanese.

    The former is unnecessary, the latter potentially
    harmful.

    Sponsors of the workplace bill say they worry that,
    for example, operating-room personnel working
    with a language barrier will lead to a dangerous
    medical error. However, there already is a federal
    law that allows businesses to set language
    requirements, which suggests this simply is a
    maneuver to ingratiate the bill's backers to their
    voting base.

    And if that is the example that illustrates the need
    for this bill, it's hard to imagine any hospital staff
    that would enter an operating room without
    knowing whether everyone could understand each
    other.


    This bill appears similar to the "English First''
    proposal that Nashville voters rejected in January
    2009. In its attempt to forbid any language but
    English be spoken in Metro government, the
    measure was discriminatory and shortsighted.

    The failed Metro proposal also was funded almost
    entirely by an out-of-state organization, ProEnglish,
    that is anti-immigrant and whose founder, John
    Tanton, has been criticized for expounding racist
    principles. ProEnglish, not content to accept that
    repudiation, is backing the driver's license exam
    legislation.

    Rep. Eric Watson, R-Cleveland, one of the sponsors
    of the bill, has said it is to ensure that all Tennessee
    drivers can read road signs. He did not cite any
    statistics showing that road mishaps are being
    caused by non-English speakers. He also did not
    explain why so many Tennesseans who speak
    English and have lived here all their lives apparently
    can't read road signs, either.


    One result seems likely, however, if this bill
    becomes law: The number of people driving without
    a license will increase, because people who must
    drive in order to make a living will feel they cannot
    wait until they master English. Now, that is
    dangerous.

    This bill has a major disconnect in that people who
    cannot comprehend full sentences in English can s
    till understand place names and directional
    symbols, such as are found on road signs. So what
    would be the real reason for this legislation, unless
    it is to discourage immigrants from coming to or
    staying in Tennessee?

    And it would do just that — legal and illegal
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    immigrants. And they would be joined by the many
    companies and public institutions whose policy it is
    to do business where diversity is valued. Those
    companies and institutions will take their business
    to other states.

    Consider, for example, Volkswagen AG, which has
    committed to a major assembly plant near
    Chattanooga that is bringing thousands of jobs to
    Tennessee. The automaker opposes this driver's
    license bill. If it becomes law, VW still will have a
    plant here; but will it continue to invest as much or
    be willing to encourage other business partners to
    join it?

    Why does ProEnglish, comfortable in its Virginia
    headquarters, care if Tennessee's image as a
    welcoming destination is destroyed? Answer: It
    doesn't. If you do care, tell your state legislator to
    stop these bills.


    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20100 ... 01/3280338
    Matthew 19:26
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    The Tennessean is at war with Representative Eric Watson. Here are more articles, editorials, guest writers that this liberal media outlet has allowed to be printed. Where is the other side? Where are the voices of support?

    Related

    * Guest editorial: Driver bill faulty, motives dishonest
    * Other countries' policies could inform state approach on English
    * Reader views on English-only
    * Guest editorial: English-only is the law
    * English-only push resurfaces
    * TN business groups oppose English-only driver's testing
    * English-only driver's license bill advances
    * Guest editorial: English-only is the law
    * Guest editorial: Driver bill faulty, motives dishonest
    * Reader views on English-only
    * English-only push resurfaces

    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20100 ... 01/3280338

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    It is written,... if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
    Matthew 19:26
    But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
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