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    Exclusive: Trump’s draft plan to punish legal immigrants for sending US-born kids to

    Exclusive: Trump’s draft plan to punish legal immigrants for sending US-born kids to Head Start

    Or getting insured through the Children’s Health Insurance Program, or getting assistance to heat their homes.
    By Dara Linddara@vox.com Updated Feb 8, 2018, 7:37pm EST

    The Trump administration is working on new rules that would allow the government to keep immigrants from settling in the US, or even force them to leave, if their families had used a broad swath of local, state, or federal social services to which they’re legally entitled — even enrolling their US-born children in Head Start or the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP).

    A draft of the new regulation, posted first by Vox, can be found at the bottom of this article or on DocumentCloud. (If the DocumentCloud link does not work for you, here is a direct link to the PDF.) Reuters originally reported on the existence of the draft regulation Thursday.

    The rule wouldn’t make it illegal for immigrants to use public services that are open to everyone regardless of immigration status, or that are available to their US-born children. But it would make it possible for the government to deny their applications for a new type of visa, or a green card, if they’d used those services. In other words, it could force them to choose between taking advantage of available social services, and their family’s future ability to stay in the United States permanently.

    If approved and finalized, the regulation would vastly expand the federal government’s power to bar an immigrant from entering the United States, obtaining a new visa, or becoming a lawful permanent resident (green-card holder) by labeling the immigrant a likely “public charge.”

    Right now, the government can only consider use of cash benefits, like Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, in “public charge” determinations. The Trump administration wants to give officials the power to look at use of other benefits as well, including:

    some “educational benefits,” including use of Head Start for children
    Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP)
    use of any subsidies, or purchase of subsidized insurance, under the Affordable Care Act
    food stamps
    Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) assistance
    Housing benefits, like Section 8
    Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP)
    transit vouchers

    Using any of these for more than six months in the last two years (before applying for a different visa or a green card) would be considered a “heavily weighted” strike against the immigrant. (That strike could be canceled out if an immigrant was making more than 250 percent of the federal poverty level when applying for the new visa or green card — which, for a family of 4 in 2017, was $60,750.)

    Government officials already have a lot of discretion in who gets labeled a public charge, and use of public services is supposed to be only one factor among many. But the Trump administration’s desire to expand it so radically indicates that they do, in fact, plan to reject visa or green card applications based on use of non-cash services and health insurance subsidies.

    Immigrants can get out of being considered a “public charge” if they have someone willing to sign an “affidavit of support” promising to support them at 125 percent of the federal poverty level. But the government doesn’t have to agree to admit someone, or give them a green card, based on that affidavit.

    The draft would allow an immigrant one other way to get out of a “public charge” bar: paying at least $10,000 in bond. But the Department of Homeland Security would have the power to decide whether to allow an immigrant to post bond. And if the immigrant used any public benefits in the five years after posting the bond, they’d forfeit the whole $10,000.

    Not every immigrant has to pass the “public charge” test — refugees and asylees, for example, are exempt both when they come to the US and if they apply for green cards after that. But most immigrants who get green cards do have to pass. According to calculations from Reuters, nearly 383,000 of the immigrants who got green cards in 2016 were subject to the test.

    The version Vox obtained, dated February 6, was circulated to Department of Homeland Security employees. The document as obtained by Vox includes pages 1-2 of the document, and the regulatory text (starting at page 228); it does not include the 225-page preamble originally included with the draft.

    It has not yet been approved by L. Francis Cissna, the director of US Citizenship and Immigration Services (which regulates legal immigration to the United States). Sources believe that the regulation is being drafted quickly and could be sent to the Office of Management and Budget for validation as soon as March.

    https://www.vox.com/2018/2/8/1699317...-public-charge
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    YES!! Please let this be true and please make it happen if it is.

    GO TRUMP GO!!!
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    Deport the illegal parents and their minor children!

    The illegal parents are the Guardians and Custodians of their minor children...NOT U.S. Taxpayers!

    No Tax Refunds to Illegal Aliens!

    No illegal alien shall collect benefits on behalf of a U.S. citizen, whether that citizen is a minor or otherwise!

    SQUEEZE THEM LIKE A TURNIP AND FORCE THEM TO SELF DEPORT!
    NO DACA - NO AMNESTY - NO PATH TO STAY - LET WORK PERMITS EXPIRE

    HAND UAC'S OVER INTO THE CARE AND CUSTODY OF THEIR EMBASSY!

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    I think a much better plan would be to create an executive order that prevents social security numbers from being given out to anyone who can not demonstrate that either their mother or father are an American citizens. This would not apply in situations where neither a child's mother nor father are known (orphans). This will go up to the Supreme Court where they would eventually determine the meaning of the 14th amendment.
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    This is just a smoke screen Trump is throwing up to run cover for his push next week to pass DACA Amnesty into law.
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    It's still needed. N oimmigrant household should receive a dime of tax money.
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    NO AMNESTY

    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    Head Start isn't K-12 or compulsory.
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    California banned illegal aliens from public schools, healthcare, etc. in 1994.
    The Federal Court ruled that was unconstitutional.

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    California Proposition 187 (also known as the Save Our State (SOS) initiative) was a 1994 ballot initiative to establish a state-run citizenship screening system and prohibit illegal aliens from using non-emergency health care, public education, and other services in the State of California.

    California Proposition 187 - Wikipedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    California banned illegal aliens from public schools, healthcare, etc. in 1994.
    The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that was unconstitutional.

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    California Proposition 187 (also known as the Save Our State (SOS) initiative) was a 1994 ballot initiative to establish a state-run citizenship screening system and prohibit illegal aliens from using non-emergency health care, public education, and other services in the State of California.

    California Proposition 187 - Wikipedia
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    Proposition 187 never went to the US Supreme Court. It went to the 9th Circuit but was withdrawn by newly elected DemoQuack Governor, Gray Davis, effectively killing the law.
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