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    Families have gathered at the U.S. Capitol for a rally titled “The Negative Impact of

    Families have gathered at the U.S. Capitol for a rally titled “The Negative Impact of Illegal Alien Crime in America.”


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    Speakers include: Pastor Mark Burns, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Sheriff Chuck Jenkins, Sheriff Mark Lamb, Rep. Steve King (R-IA), Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA), Rep. Buddy Carter (R-GA). They will be joined by new members of the Angel Families: Arlene Cohen, Maria Wolff, Courtney Hacking, Aileen Smith, Kathy Hall, Bonnie Eggle, Cindy Scalf, Sharon Miller, and Sandy Doyal.

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    WOW! Love to see this! Thank you all so much!! So very very much!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    WOW! Love to see this! Thank you all so much!! So very very much!!!

    Judy, It is good to see this. We need to see and hear more from voices who have been victimized by illegal immigration and who have suffered so much. God bless them and give them strength.

    Drawing attention to their loved ones and to the need for border security and enforcement of immigration laws hopefully gives them an added purpose as they mourn and celebrate the lives of their children. Americans need to know the costs.
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    Yes, and I love the way they are calling it a rally instead of a protest. I'm so sick of protests, I could live the rest of my life in happiness without seeing another one. But I love rallies, rallies are positive, proposing for something, for action, for a proposal, for a solution, instead of always against something or someone.
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    We need to get on the border ourselves!

    2 MILLION MAN MARCH AND SEND THEM BACK!
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    STAY HOME AND BUILD AMERICA ON YOUR SOIL

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    YES, a WALL OF AMERICANS!!! Push 'em back, push 'em back, waaay back!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    We need to get on the border ourselves!

    2 MILLION MAN MARCH AND SEND THEM BACK!
    Hey, that's not a bad idea. Sadly, the only voices that seem to be heard nowadays are the voices of supporters of illegal immigration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    YES, a WALL OF AMERICANS!!! Push 'em back, push 'em back, waaay back!!
    I hate to put a monkey wrench (is that racist?) in your euphoria, but if drug runners or coyotes shoot some of them or injure some of them with rocks and stuff, like they do to our border patrol, that's okay with you as long as Americans aren't armed and shoot back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    I hate to put a monkey wrench (is that racist?) in your euphoria, but if drug runners or coyotes shoot some of them or injure some of them with rocks and stuff, like they do to our border patrol, that's okay with you as long as Americans aren't armed and shoot back?
    Americans will be armed to the hilt and will most definitely defend themselves. You're new and don't know what the Wall of Americans means. Judy's Wall of Americans is a corps of 40,000 American citizens guarding every mile of our border with Mexico. 6 person teams, 3 teams a day, 18 guards for each mile for 24/7 coverage, with 2 floaters for holidays and sick leave, 20 Americans per mile counting the floaters, x 2000 miles = 40,000 guards, earning $40,000 a year ($20 an hour) plus 20% in benefits for annual cost of $50,000 a year per guard. $50k x 40k = $2 billion a year plus $800 million a year for equipment, weapons, vehicles, radios, phones, binoculars, night vision gear, trailers, camping gear, supplies, etc. All they do is guard the mile. Add $200 million for management and administration and you've got an annual cost of $3 billion with every mile of the US border covered by at least 6 armed and equipped Americans at all times. They're Border Guards or Scouts whatever you want to call them, while Border Patrol's 25,000 Border Patrol Agents do the processing, transporting and so forthing.

    National Guard could do it. But at the time when I came up with this idea, more than 10 years ago, we had lots of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan so didn't want to burden the NG any further and there were lots of unemployed Americans. Now maybe that situation is different and 40,000 National Guard could do it. They've already got all the equipment, vehicles, gear and so forth, they know how to camp and deal with rough environments, they already have a management and administration system in place, so the Wall of Americans could be citizen civilians or military, either way, doesn't matter. I prefer the human wall over the barrier wall myself. And there's some areas so rough and remote that maybe you wouldn't ultimately need 40,000, maybe 30,000 for 75% coverage instead of 100%. But I'd start out with 40,000 for 100% coverage and see what happens over time. You can always scale it back in areas that prove zero activity.

    For interior enforcement, you use state and local law enforcement. Authorize them to enforce US immigration law. There's 800,000 sworn, trained, equipped and paid state and local police officers in the United States who arrest 12 million people annually. That's an average of only 1.5 arrests per month per officer according to FBI statistics. So I figure they could easily spare the time to arrest at least 2 illegal aliens a month for 11 months and 3 illegal aliens in 1 month which is 25 illegal aliens per officer per year, that's 20 million in one year. If there's 30 million, they could clean every illegal alien out of this country in less than 18 months with no major effort or any new expense.

    Now, of course, we'd have to change the deportation order process because there's no way US DOJ could EVER keep up with that. So you'd have to use an executive order of some type to designate local magistrates or state court judges to ask 2 simple questions to issue a deportation order:

    1. are you a US citizen, yes or no, verify with ICE
    2. if no, do you have valid unexpired documents to be in the US, yes or no, verify with ICE
    3. if no and no, then out you go complete with your entire kit and caboodle including all minor children, regardless of where they were born, no child left behind.

    These are just a few of the ideas that I and other ALIPACERS have come up with over the years, but nothing ever happens. There's a bill in Congress, every year for many years to authorize state and local police officers to engage in enforcement of US immigration law, but it just sits because Republicans don't have enough votes in the Senate to pass it. Every session of Congress they're reintroduced, same with ending birthright citizenship, there's a bill, Vitter had the bill first in the Senate, and Steve King has one in the House, every session they were introduced, Vitter left the Senate, King is still in the House, he still introduces his and I think someone introduces Vitter's in the Senate, but it doesn't matter because we don't have enough Republican Senators to pass an immigration bill.

    It's not their fault things haven't happened that require legislation. They can't pass bills we want without a majority in the House, 60 Votes in the Senate and a Republican President who will sign them.

    So if you want to beat up on Trump and Republicans, then you might as well just open the borders, because this is our last chance to end this scourge in the United States. It's one thing to stop amnesty, it's quite another to stop illegal immigration.

    Everyone needs to keep that fact in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Americans will be armed to the hilt and will most definitely defend themselves. You're new and don't know what the Wall of Americans means. Judy's Wall of Americans is a corps of 40,000 American citizens guarding every mile of our border with Mexico. 6 person teams, 3 teams a day, 18 guards for each mile for 24/7 coverage, with 2 floaters for holidays and sick leave, 20 Americans per mile counting the floaters, x 2000 miles = 40,000 guards, earning $40,000 a year ($20 an hour) plus 20% in benefits for annual cost of $50,000 a year per guard. $50k x 40k = $2 billion a year plus $800 million a year for equipment, weapons, vehicles, radios, phones, binoculars, night vision gear, trailers, camping gear, supplies, etc. All they do is guard the mile. Add $200 million for management and administration and you've got an annual cost of $3 billion with every mile of the US border covered by at least 6 armed and equipped Americans at all times. They're Border Guards or Scouts whatever you want to call them, while Border Patrol's 25,000 Border Patrol Agents do the processing, transporting and so forthing.
    All of that, and you are going to let them walk right in and then go to the expense of processing, transporting, and so forthing? Why not STOP them from crossing and eliminate that expense and circus?
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