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    Illegal uses 2yr old to buy home, citizen exposes

    Both lose in aborted immigrant-citizen home sale
    Nov 16, 2008 12:30 PM EST
    ROSWELL, Ga. - Like all illegal immigrants, Lorenzo Jimenez knew the knock on the door from immigration agents could come at any time.

    Still, he had enough faith in the American dream to buy a house in this Atlanta suburb, even though signing the papers meant raising the risk: He put his 2-year-old, American-born daughter's name and Social Security number on the title.

    And it worked, for a while. Jimenez and his family lived happily enough for several years alongside "regular" citizens.

    Nicole Griffin's mom lived a few doors away, and when Griffin visited, she said, her kids played with the Jimenez children. When Jimenez put his four-bedroom, two-bathroom home up for sale last spring, wanting more space, Griffin was immediately interested.

    A contract was negotiated but when the sale appeared to go sour, Griffin raised a new issue: that she was a citizen and Jimenez wasn't. She told local media, immigration officials, his boss and others that he was here illegally. She even put signs in the yard of the house exposing his residency status.

    As a result, agents came knocking last month, and now Jimenez is fighting to keep from being deported. He also lost his job.

    "I'm very sad and very worried," said Jimenez, 32. "I can't sleep because I'm thinking about my family. What's going to happen? I don't know."

    Griffin insists her intent was to buy the house, nothing else. The 28-year-old single mother of two maintains she was wronged first, so she acted to protect her interests. She has no regrets.

    "At the end, do I feel bad the family got in trouble? No, not at all," she said.

    Those who enter the U.S. illegally often say they're just striving for the same things that most American citizens want out of life - a good job, home ownership, maybe a chance to get a little bit ahead. But the ambitions of citizens and non-citizens can collide and, as the painful entanglement between Jimenez and Griffin shows, both sides can wind up feeling like victims.

    Jimenez, who is Mexican, has been in the U.S. for about a decade. When he bought the house four years ago, the real estate agent handling the sale told him he could get a better interest rate using his daughter's information on the closing documents than he could using the federal tax identification number he uses to pay income tax here.

    Jimenez later filed papers to have his own name added to the title, and that's how it stayed until Griffin spotted the "for sale" sign and $164,500 list price this spring.

    With both sides enthusiastic about the sale, a deal was reached and the closing was set for May 15.

    Griffin, a payroll clerk and first-time homebuyer, asked to postpone the closing until June 1 because she had problems locking in her interest rate. Jimenez agreed but asked that she move into the house as planned and pay rent until the closing.

    Shortly after Griffin moved in, her attorney said there was a problem with the title on the house, namely that Jimenez's young daughter's name was on the title but her signature wasn't on the sale documents. Attorneys said some extra paperwork - establishing a conservatorship to watch out for the child's interest, the first step in getting the title transferred solely to her father - would clear the title, and everyone agreed to postpone again.

    Griffin didn't pay the rent, however, claiming she was promised three months free since the delay was Jimenez's fault. She has an e-mail from his real estate agent, Alina Carbonell, saying he'd made the offer.

    Jimenez's lawyer, Erik Meder, told her that offer was never firm and insisted she pay rent or vacate the house.

    Locked in a letter war with Meder, Griffin escalated her actions. She contacted the FBI, the Roswell Police Department, local media, the state attorney general's office and the governor's office, among others. She asked her congressman, U.S. Rep. Tom Price, for help, saying she felt Jimenez and Meder had deceived her. Price's office, in turn, contacted U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said Brendan Buck, a Price spokesman.

    "I am a law-abiding American merely trying to purchase a home," Griffin wrote in mid-July in a letter to American Homebuyers, a nonprofit that helps low- to moderate-income families buy homes. "An illegal family fraudulently obtained a mortgage using a 1 yr old SSN, and appear to have all the rights in this situation - How can this be when they shouldn't even be in America?"

    She said she contacted anyone she could think of who might be able to help the sale go through.

    Jimenez said she started making his life a nightmare. He claims she caused cosmetic damage to the house and intentionally clogged the plumbing, both of which she denies.

    Griffin also went after Carbonell, the real estate agent. She contacted the Georgia State Real Estate Commission to try to get her license revoked. Carbonell said the threat to her reputation and to her career caused her so much stress she had to take a leave of absence.

    Griffin said she reported Carbonell because the agent knew Jimenez's daughter's name was on the title from the beginning but didn't tell her right away. (Carbonell was not the real estate agent who originally advised Jimenez to use his daughter's name.)

    In September, Meder got a judge to order Griffin to pay retroactive rent and get out of the house within a week.

    Griffin then went to the upscale Atlanta restaurant where Jimenez worked as a cook and told his boss he was undocumented, which Jimenez said resulted in his firing.

    "It was my last resort," Griffin said, "but once I realized my family had seven days to get out of a house that a family's not even legally supposed to own, I did go to his employer and I did let his employer know."

    She also put bright red signs in the yard reading, "This house is owned by an illegal alien." When Jimenez tore them down, she put up new ones.

    Griffin said she wanted the neighbors to share her outrage over what was happening.

    "I don't feel bad for anything that happens to the Jimenez family at this point," Griffin said recently, "because no one feels bad that all I tried to do was buy a house, and I ended up living back with my mother."

    In early October, plainclothes ICE agents showed up at Jimenez's apartment. They asked him about his residency status and his purchase of the house, then handcuffed him and took him away. He was released a few hours later and is due before a judge in January and could face eventual deportation.

    His lawyers plan to apply to keep Jimenez in the country permanently, a process that could last several years. While it's pending, he will be eligible for a work permit. But even if he gets one, Jimenez will be living in limbo. His application to stay could be rejected, which means he still could be ordered to leave the country.

    Jimenez has taken the house off the market but doesn't want to move his family back in amid the uncertainty, so they're still in the apartment that was supposed to be a transitional stop until they bought a bigger place.

    Griffin hasn't tried to buy another home, in part because she can't afford to, so she and her kids are still staying with her mother.

    Down the street, the Jimenez house sits empty.

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    That's unreal......in the name of 1 yr.old? Is there anything these people do legally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazybird
    That's unreal......in the name of 1 yr.old? Is there anything these people do legally?
    Sounds like part of the ACORN deal.
    I feel ACORN is the major reason for the countries economy.
    They forced mortgage giants to give mortgages to illegals, and poor people.
    Some of these people could NOT PAY the FIRST mortgage payment!!

    Things are looking up now.
    At least some areas are dealing with parts of the illegal immigration system.
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    Griffin is a HERO!

    If only we ALL had the motivation to deal with the illegal aliens this way. Nothing she did was out of line, except for maybe waiting so darn long to report it ... I bet she knew his status before she wanted to buy the house, she did say her kids used to play with his.
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    If every American citizen did this we would not have this problem. Illegals would not be able to get away with anything and everything. The more that americans hold there tongue's the more the illegals will keep pushing for more things. It's time that people screamed THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES!!

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    And a two year old has a credit history to base a loan on???????

    I don't think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad
    And a two year old has a credit history to base a loan on???????

    I don't think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I was thinking the same thing! That original Realtor pulled some kind of strings to get that loan approved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomas
    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad
    And a two year old has a credit history to base a loan on???????

    I don't think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I was thinking the same thing! That original Realtor pulled some kind of strings to get that loan approved!
    the realtor should be charged with something for even suggesting that he put his kids name on a home. thats just insane

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    This is how they fraudulently obtain many benefits, they use the social security numbers of their children. The very idea that this man could be allowed to stay and get a temporary work permit. He has violated law after law and he is rewarded. Thank you Ms. Griffin for exposing him and yet where are the other neighbors and citizens to support her? I hope that there are many who the mainstream media is just not reporting.

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    Minors cannot legally enter into any contracts, I don't know how in the world a one year old was able to obtain a mortgage! My teenager wasn't even allowed to buy a used car, for goodness sake!

    This is how the illegal aliens obtain money, it's all by fraud. I'm glad Griffin did the right thing, I certainly would.
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