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    Hispanic Caucus tells Democrats to shape up

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    California Democratic Rep. Joe Baca and other Latino lawmakers in Washington are angry at fellow Democrats' treatment of issues like immigration.
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    May 17, 2008, 11:33PM
    Hispanic Caucus tells Democrats to shape up
    The lawmakers say comprehensive immigration bills are needed, soon

    By RICHARD S. DUNHAM
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    WASHINGTON — Rep. Joe Baca, chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, is steamed. Latinos have become a political "punching bag" this year, the California Democrat complained recently, attacked by "the misinformed" and "the misguided."

    If you think he's talking about Republican presidential candidates and vocal immigration critics such as CNN's Lou Dobbs and Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, you'd be mistaken. The target of Baca's ire is the House Democratic leadership.

    Baca and other Latino lawmakers on Capitol Hill are angry at their fellow Democrats — and they say they're not going to take it anymore.

    They've held a press conference on the steps of a House office building to denounce their leadership's willingness to cater to immigration critics by holding hearings on enforcement measures proposed by endangered Democratic moderates.

    They've threatened to block progress on immigration proposals backed by business interests and pushed by key Democrats, such as special visas for high-tech workers or agricultural help, unless leaders also move forward with comprehensive immigration legislation.

    They've even accused their leadership of betraying bedrock Democratic principles.

    "Today, my party wants to do what's easy, not what's right," said Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill.

    'The frustration ... is real'
    In a bid for anti-immigrant votes, Gutierrez says, his party is "betraying the Democrats' traditional fight for justice."


    Lawmakers in the 20-member Hispanic Caucus know they are not going to get their political wish this year: another shot at comprehensive immigration legislation, something that died in the Senate last year. But they are frustrated that their party has not been aggressive at pushing back against the heated rhetoric of the Right.

    "The frustration that you sense is real," said Rep. Charlie Gonzalez, D-San Antonio, a caucus vice chairman."We allowed the opponents of comprehensive immigration reform to frame the debate."

    Latino lawmakers are most upset about a proposal by conservative Democrat Heath Shuler, D-N.C., to step up border enforcement and tighten requirements forcing employers to verify the legal status of their workers. Republicans are trying to force House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who opposes Shuler's "Secure America through Verification and Enforcement" Act, to bring the measure to the House floor for a vote through a petition signed by 218 lawmakers.

    Several dozen Democratic moderates, including Rep. Nick Lampson, D-Stafford, have angered the Hispanic caucus by signing the petition. In addition, Lampson has proposed legislation to double penalties against smugglers who bring criminals into the U.S.

    Rep. Ruben Hinojosa, D-Mercedes, said he and other Hispanic lawmakers are tired of the Democratic leadership scheduling hearings on "piecemeal legislation" while ignoring comprehensive reform.

    "We continue to have to deal with pointless political stunts and fear-mongering," Hinojosa said.

    The political consequences of a Hispanic rebellion — if it occurs — could be significant.

    If alienated Latinos stay home from the polls in November, it could cost Democrats dearly in closely contested local elections in Texas, Arizona and other states. And if Hispanics conclude that their party is no different on immigration than Republican presidential candidate John McCain — a longtime supporter of comprehensive reform— it could tip the balance to the GOP in presidential contests in swing states such as New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado.

    To neutralize McCain's appeal to Latino voters, said Antonio Gonzalez, president of the William C. Velasquez Institute, a San Antonio-based think tank, Democrats need to make an effort this year to pass some sort of immigration measure that deals with issues other than enforcement.

    "It doesn't have to be the whole enchilada," said Gonzalez. "It can be a down payment on immigration reform."

    Not a top issue
    Despite the fury in Washington, Andy Hernandez, a political science professor at the University of Texas-San Antonio, said immigration has not been a top issue for Hispanics so far this year.


    Like other Americans, he said, Hispanics have been more focused on issues such as the economy, health care and the war in Iraq.

    Hernandez said, however, the Democrats would be smart to approve some kind of reform that would distinguish them from Republicans.

    "Do I think it will be a decisive issue for Latinos? No," said Hernandez. "Do I believe if (Democrats) get ahead of the issue and show some leadership, more so than McCain, it helps them in November? It is one more weight in favor of Democrats."

    But Rep. Gene Green, D-Houston, said immigration legislation of any sort is a longshot in this presidential and congressional election year.

    "Nothing's going to happen" on immigration in 2008, Green said, "particularly in an even-numbered (election) year with the president on the ballot."

    Due warning
    Green, an associate member of the Hispanic Caucus, whose district has a Latino majority, said the caucus' criticism of Pelosi, D-Calif., was "like a shot across the bow."


    He said Pelosi and her top lieutenants have received the message — and will heed it in 2009.

    "The speaker and leadership know that you can't have enforcement-only," he said. "There has to be comprehensive (immigration) reform."

    Chronicle reporter Bennett Roth contributed to this story.

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    "Down payment on Immigration Reform"@?$9&&&5$!!! This reminds me of an old cartoon which had a main line of "What are We ? Men or Mice ?
    pause, then I like Chesse ". Ladies and Gentlemen , Welcome to your new Gutless Greed driven , Ego-Inflated Self Important Demorat Party.
    Now if it ain't for the NAU of Bushco's. Someone tell me how a Hispanic Caucus can bully a major party in the U.S like this ? Is our country that dam weak now ? I'ld still pull their phone lines and turn off the power and say "S You ". BUDDY
    Nam vet 1967/1970 Skull & Bones can KMA .Bless our Brothers that gave their all ..It also gives me the right to Vote for Chuck Baldwin 2008 POTUS . NOW or never*
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    who on earth do these people think they are?

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    'The frustration ... is real'
    In a bid for anti-immigrant votes, Gutierrez says, his party is "betraying the Democrats' traditional fight for justice."


    Thanks for letting us know about this IL Rep. Gutierrez. At one time he was going to retire -but then came back into politics...
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    "The speaker and leadership know that you can't have enforcement-only," he said. "There has to be comprehensive (immigration) reform."
    Why not? They haven't put forth the effort in decades and it's past due. Reform yes, amnesty no.
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    Rep. Joe Baca, chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, is steamed. Latinos have become a political "punching bag" this year, the California Democrat complained recently, attacked by "the misinformed" and "the misguided."
    Honest to goodness, these people are nothing but traitors to this country and it's citizens. California is infested with illegals and cannot pay it's bills and Baca and his "Hispanic Caucus" are worried about attacks on their uni-ethnic agenda.

    Time to dismantle the Hispanic Caucus...
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    speaker and leadership know that you can't have enforcement-only," he said. "There has to be comprehensive (immigration) reform."
    The members of the Hispanic Caucus needs to shut their mouths. I'm sick of these open border idiots telling us we can't enforce our laws unless we cater to the foreign squatters in this country. We don't owe anyone anything who comes into this country illegally. If these Representatives can't represent ALL the people, they need to get the hell out.
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    I wonder how many members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus are there because of illegal-alien voting??

    In his report last week on efforts to require voters to show proof of citizenship in order to vote, Lou Dobbs said this:

    DOBBS: OK and with this issue on the integrity of our voting system Congresswoman Candace Miller also pushing and pointing out that because -- and this is remarkable -- the Congressional Research Service finding that because of illegal aliens living in California -- California has six more Congressmen in the United States Congress than they should have.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

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    That's because the Census Bureau doesn't distinguish between legal and illegal. There should not even be a Congressman for the number of illegal aliens in a state. That would be considered representing citizens of a foreign country, in my opinion. This needs to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anna-Anna
    I wonder how many members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus are there because of illegal-alien voting??

    In his report last week on efforts to require voters to show proof of citizenship in order to vote, Lou Dobbs said this:

    DOBBS: OK and with this issue on the integrity of our voting system Congresswoman Candace Miller also pushing and pointing out that because -- and this is remarkable -- the Congressional Research Service finding that because of illegal aliens living in California -- California has six more Congressmen in the United States Congress than they should have.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html
    I would imagine ALL of them since this seems to be the only group the Hispanic Caucus is concerned with!

    Of course illegals are voting in our elections. If illegals are brazen enough to present stolen SS numbers in order to secure work, drivers licenses, and even present them to police officers, why would they have any trepidations in casting a ballot when they are not even asked to present their fradulent identification to cast their vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinybobidaho
    That's because the Census Bureau doesn't distinguish between legal and illegal. There should not even be a Congressman for the number of illegal aliens in a state. That would be considered representing citizens of a foreign country, in my opinion. This needs to change.
    Great point tinybobidaho! That's also part of this problem...
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