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    Illegal aliens and welfare queens (and kings)

    Illegal aliens and welfare queens (and kings)

    Exclusive: Jane Chastain on why immigration, hand-out programs are linked

    March 1, 2017



    In his first address to a joint session of Congress, President Trump restated his plans to shore up our borders and stop the flow of illegal aliens flooding into the country. Republicans jumped to their feet to applaud his words. However, some of those who stood did so reluctantly.

    If we could zoom in for a closer look, we would find many of those lawmakers with their fingerís crossed behind their backs. Thatís because if they back this president, there will be hell to pay from many of their big business donors if the flow of illegal immigrants is slowed or stopped completely. Their supply of cheap labor will dry up. Who will clean the toilets, man the car washes? Who will pick our fruits and vegetables? Who will fill the low-skilled jobs in our factories?

    The reality is that many of those jobs may go unfilled if there is not a companion effort to reform Ė really reform Ė welfare.

    On Feb. 21, an agri-businessman in Florida complained to a Fox News reporter that he couldnít get his crops picked due to the renewed effort to enforce our immigration laws. Paul Dimare said that he now ships 20 loads of produce a day where he used to ship as many as 80. He claims he canít find Americans to do this work for $150 a day.

    Said Dimare, ďThey really didnít take anybodyís jobs because the Americans arenít working in the field. That Iím going to tell you!Ē

    The salary Dimare pays is equal to $37,500 per year. Thatís three times the current poverty rate of $12,060 per year for a single individual and well above the poverty rate for someone supporting a family of four. At that rate a working couple could pull down $75,000 a year, which would provide a good standard of living in most agricultural areas of the county.

    Itís funny how bleeding-heart liberals are all for women in the workforce unless, of course, we are talking about women on welfare. Then, they argue, we canít expect mothers to work, and certainly not full-time.

    So letís go back to our family of four that could pull down $75,000 working those agri-jobs. Presently, there are over 90 different means-tested welfare programs that will give that family of four with an income of 200 percent of the poverty level, currently $49,200 per year, a plethora of benefits that include things like free housing, free food, free medical care and free money. All they have to do is earn less that $49,200 per year. Why bust their buns to earn $75,000 a year when they can get everything they need for free?

    Different states have different requirements and time limits. However, all those requirements have holes big enough to drive a Mack truck through.

    But forget the loopholes. Many working-age adults simply apply for and receive disability. Itís not difficult. Since 1990, the number of working-age adults on the disability rolls has doubled. Yes, despite all our medical advances, one in 20 working-age adults has been officially declared ďdisabledĒ and has conveniently disappeared from the unemployment rolls. Most of those on disability state one of two problems: mental disorders or back problems.

    Trying to access someoneís mental condition is a little like nailing jello to a tree. As far as back problems, show me someone over 40 who doesnít have them! Thankfully, most people with back problems still go to work and pay the benefits of those who would rather stay home and cash their SSI checks. Show me someone who can hop out of his truck or make every yard sale, and I will show you somebody who has no business sponging off the poor working stiff!

    Yes, it has become increasingly hard to find Americans who are willing to work, or willing to work hard at a low-skill job if necessary in order to support themselves. Nevertheless, methinks Mr. Dimare may protest too much.

    So far, there has been no serious effort to round up people who are in this country illegally working, but have committed no other crimes. Also, since the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act there is no limit to the amount of H-2A agricultural guest workers an employer can bring in legally, provided he can prove a need and is willing to provide befits and wages stipulated by the Department of Labor. Most donít. It is just too easy to get workers who are willing to simply hop over the border, because they can.

    Our welfare system and our immigration system are broken, and it is impossible to fix one and not the other.

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    Make it a federal crime to work in this country if you are not a citizen or a legal immigrant with a valid work permit for the job you take. US Department of Labor can do this with a simple regulation.
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    How can you get welfare with an income of $49,500 annually. Most Americans do not even make that today. They need to get the layabouts and illegal aliens off welfare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorrie View Post
    The reality is that many of those jobs may go unfilled if there is not a companion effort to reform – really reform – welfare.

    On Feb. 21, an agri-businessman in Florida complained to a Fox News reporter that he couldn’t get his crops picked due to the renewed effort to enforce our immigration laws. Paul Dimare said that he now ships 20 loads of produce a day where he used to ship as many as 80. He claims he can’t find Americans to do this work for $150 a day.

    Said Dimare, “They really didn’t take anybody’s jobs because the Americans aren’t working in the field. That I’m going to tell you!”

    The salary Dimare pays is equal to $37,500 per year. That’s three times the current poverty rate of $12,060 per year for a single individual and well above the poverty rate for someone supporting a family of four. At that rate a working couple could pull down $75,000 a year, which would provide a good standard of living in most agricultural areas of the county.

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    These are bogus numbers. Agricultural work is seasonal and sporadic. No way does $150 a day in the agricultural sector yield $37,500 per year. This is part of why migrant labor works for the agricultural sector. You make a tidy pile of cash in a small period of time and then move on to other employment, if you are lucky. Go home if you are not.

    Or, go on welfare for the rest of the year. One of the things that public assistance administrators look for in employment history is work in the agricultural sector.
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    The young girls can't be more than 22 and have 4 kids already - are they going to keep going till they have 10? and they have money to buy fresh cut flowers too. We are forced to pay for them to overbreed, clogging our hospitals, schools and drains
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