Thread: Make the FEDS pay for illegals in all state prisons UPDATED

California should stop making life so easy for the illegals, thus discouraging instead of encouraging them from coming to the U.S. If California passes laws on a state level (such as letting illegals pay in state college tuition rates) to encourage them, then they can't really expect the U.S. gov't to pay when they break the laws. If California wants to discourage them, pass laws such as proving citizenship before voting, no bail for illegals charged with felonies, and ankle monitors for all illegals released from jail with just a promise they will return for court. Make it harder for illegals to collect welfare for themselves and their anchors. Kick kids who cross the border from their Mexican residence to attend CA schools for free. Any convicted gang member should have to prove citizenship or be deported immediately. Force employers to use E-verify on both new and current employees. Stop babying the illegals, and they will leave and hopefully take their families with them.
Part of the problem may be that the voters (how many illegals are voting?) vote down laws that would make life harder on them.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

PROBLEM
You and I don't get to decide if SB 125 becomes law.

Congress and the president do, and they have already shown that they don't care what is best for the country or the voters. The do as the please.

PROBLEM
California is under FEDERAL Court Order to reduce prison over crowding. The only way they can do that in the time frame set up by the federal judge is to release inmates. If they release inmates who are citizens they get to stay in California. If the FEDS won't pay to keep the illegal alien inmates locked up it makes more sense to release the illegal alien inmates and have the FEDS pick them up and deport them.

Problem
The FEDS have already shown that they are either unwilling or unable to keep criminal aliens from returning to the U.S. and committing more crimes. To your state? Maybe. Would you rather see them released from California and deported, only to show up in your state committing crimes or would you prefer that the feds pay to keep them locked up in what ever state prison they are currently in?

Agree! Until recently ALL states left immigration enforcement to the Feds. Over the years of non-enforcement California and now other states have been over run with illegals. What California and other border states are; is the future picture for other states if not stopped! The Fed needs to be held financially responsible for their share by ALL states in order to get them to do their part in enforcing immigration laws and border security! Maybe all illegals who commit crimes should be sent to Federal prisons instead of State prisons since their original offense was a federal offense by entering this nation illegally! Soon they'd get the picture of the scope of the problem in their faces!

Most of us need your help and support in California, don't throw us to the wolves guys Remember it's hard to get legislation passed here since LA and San Francisco being most populous (and not necessarily citizens but still counted in the Census) control the legislation for the whole state. We all know these are the areas we have to concentrate on cleaning up, and we need help with this. We need only Citizens to have influence here. And we need the illegals OUT so we can have a fair Census count to get the representation we should have here.

I sent my support of SB 125 yesterday.

Originally Posted by cvangel

Agree! Until recently ALL states left immigration enforcement to the Feds. Over the years of non-enforcement California and now other states have been over run with illegals. What California and other border states are; is the future picture for other states if not stopped! The Fed needs to be held financially responsible for their share by ALL states in order to get them to do their part in enforcing immigration laws and border security! Maybe all illegals who commit crimes should be sent to Federal prisons instead of State prisons since their original offense was a federal offense by entering this nation illegally! Soon they'd get the picture of the scope of the problem in their faces!

Most of us need your help and support in California, don't throw us to the wolves guys :( Remember it's hard to get legislation passed here since LA and San Francisco being most populous (and not necessarily citizens but still counted in the Census) control the legislation for the whole state. We all know these are the areas we have to concentrate on cleaning up, and we need help with this. We need only Citizens to have influence here. And we need the illegals OUT so we can have a fair Census count to get the representation we should have here.

I sent my support of SB 125 yesterday.

Now if Alipac will just request everyone to e-mail their support of SB 125

maybe we can get something done in California.

JohnDoe wrote:

Now if Alipac will just request everyone to e-mail their support of SB 125

maybe we can get something done in California.

I suspect there are a lot of us on ALIPAC that don't support SB 125.

Originally Posted by MW

JohnDoe wrote:

Now if Alipac will just request everyone to e-mail their support of SB 125

maybe we can get something done in California.

I suspect there are a lot of us on ALIPAC that don't support SB 125. :wink:

Alipac has been asking people in every state to back the people in other states.

If Alipac doesn't support SB 125 they really can't expect people in CA. to back the people in other states.

JohnDoe wrote:

Alipac has been asking people in every state to back the people in other states.

The other issues don't include a taxpayer bailout for what most of us consider an illegal alien sanctuary state.

If Alipac doesn't support SB 125 they really can't expect people in CA. to back the people in other states.

Are you serious??? I'm shocked that you would even make such a comment. ALIPAC is fighting illegal immigration in every state, especially California.

Originally Posted by MW

JohnDoe wrote:

Alipac has been asking people in every state to back the people in other states.

The other issues don't include a taxpayer bailout for what most of us consider an illegal alien sanctuary state.

[quote:d97pe4ib]If Alipac doesn't support SB 125 they really can't expect people in CA. to back the people in other states.

8O 8O 8O

Are you serious??? I'm shocked that you would even make such a comment. ALIPAC is fighting illegal immigration in every state, especially California. 8O[/quote:d97pe4ib]
You sound like all you want to do is argue instead of all of us working together

so I won't be responding to anything you post in the future.

Originally Posted by cvangel

Agree! Until recently ALL states left immigration enforcement to the Feds. Over the years of non-enforcement California and now other states have been over run with illegals. What California and other border states are; is the future picture for other states if not stopped! The Fed needs to be held financially responsible for their share by ALL states in order to get them to do their part in enforcing immigration laws and border security! Maybe all illegals who commit crimes should be sent to Federal prisons instead of State prisons since their original offense was a federal offense by entering this nation illegally! Soon they'd get the picture of the scope of the problem in their faces!

Most of us need your help and support in California, don't throw us to the wolves guys :( Remember it's hard to get legislation passed here since LA and San Francisco being most populous (and not necessarily citizens but still counted in the Census) control the legislation for the whole state. We all know these are the areas we have to concentrate on cleaning up, and we need help with this. We need only Citizens to have influence here. And we need the illegals OUT so we can have a fair Census count to get the representation we should have here.

I sent my support of SB 125 yesterday.

cvangle: You sound like the only one around here that understands this issue.

This info is being sent to William G. in an e-mail.

William G.:

What possition is Alipac going to take on SB 125? (See info below.)

Please respond at this link.


http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... c&p=872829
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Make the federal government pay for the costs of illegals in California’s prisons!

State Senator John Benoit (R-Bermuda Dunes) has introduced SB 125, a measure aimed at pressuring the federal government to reimburse California for the full cost of incarcerating illegal aliens.

The legislation would require the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation to bill the federal government annually for the full cost of imprisoning illegal aliens. If the federal government fails to compensate the state, SB 125 would require the California Attorney General to use all available legal recourses to compel the federal government to do so.

According to statistics from the United States Department of Justice, there are 25,728 illegal aliens incarcerated in California prisons, comprising an estimated 15 percent of the state's prison population. The Department of Corrections spent $662.4 million housing illegal aliens in the 2005-06 fiscal year, a cost that has risen to over $900 million during this current fiscal year due to an 11 percent increase in the population of illegal alien prisoners.

This measure seeks to alleviate the financial burden imposed on California by criminal aliens, and it reminds the federal government that we are tired of its failure to stop illegal immigration.

( This means that California is trying to do something about illegal immigration.

And some people here don't want to help CA. do something about ILLEGAL immigration ? )

Originally Posted by Tbow009

The Rest of the country has to pay for California's sanctuary and liberal policies? I dont think so.

While I'm sort of on the fence about who should pay, I'm more inclined to agree with you.

Since our government isn't changing from the top down, I think we need to change it from the bottom up. A way to do that is to get others about aware of what is going on and what is spent on illegals.

Washington D.C. is blowing through money that'll take generations to pay back. Drunken sailors don't spend this much! At the federal level, the additional costs would be trivial compared to the rest of the nightmare. As previously stated, the costs for California would be spread out among all states, including those that are less friendly to illegals. At a local level, it would hurt much more.

If the sanctuary states/counties/cities are forced to pay for the illegal aliens, and the people are aware of what it's really costing, it could provide incentive to change their policies. If enough local pressure is put on congress, it could make a difference nationally.