Thread: Mexican flag

Make sure and send him the rules and etiquettes for flying a foreign flag on US soil.
This is nothing short but a sign of a foreign invasion and conquest!
I applaud those who took down that flag!

(SIGH). WE HAVE WORK TO DO. THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY AT THIS MOMENT.

I'm going to write and am putting it off right now because of personal attitude also.

What really strikes me about this is that university department heads are twisting the story to cause an uproar. Totally unprofessional and should not have been tolerated by the school administration. And not a word about it -- just support for their side of the story.

Funny how the university is in an uproar over the "offended" students but not over the blatant disrespect of the country that is educating them.

Quote from the poor "offended" students-

El Centro de la Raza acknowledges the responses the university has made thus far:
Creating the Division for Institutional Diversity
(which will also address hate crimes)
Hosting a national conference on Immigration
Town hall forums to continue conversations regarding hate crimes
Exploring the core curriculum to include mandatory anti-racist training
Orientation programming that involves extensive anti-racist training
El Centro de la Raza would also like to encourage further action oriented policy development and dialogue as further prevention.

It is also time that the Raza community come forward with a united statement against disguising hate as patriotism.

The group that addresses themselves as -center for the RACE- has the gall to claim someone else is racist.
Nice that they want to institute MANDATORY anti-racist training and include it in curriculum.The school sure can pander.
Does anyone get the feeling "hate crime disguised as patriotism" is going to apply against Americans only-for everyone else it will be "freedom of speech."

As for them digging up quotes off of myspace and youtube they might want to look at raza supporter/pro-illegal statements posted on those sites,not that they won't duck and dodge on owning up to them,as it doesn't suit their agenda.

what did i miss here somebody fill me in

Originally Posted by GREGAGREATAMERICAN

what did i miss here somebody fill me in

This should kind of bring you up to date. WARNING, take blood pressure pills before reading.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ic&t=83859

Does anyone get the feeling "hate crime disguised as patriotism" is going to apply against Americans only-for everyone else it will be "freedom of speech."

Is there any doubt? Loving our country seems to be racist.

LULAC wants inquiry into Mexican flag incident
By The Associated Press
Las Cruces Sun-News
Article Launched:10/04/2007 06:48:02 AM MDT


ALBUQUERQUE — The New Mexico League of United Latin American Citizens has asked state and federal officials to investigate a University of New Mexico student who is accused of tearing down a Mexican flag.

Peter Lynch, 30, pleaded not guilty Wednesday to a charge of criminal damage to property after tearing up a Mexican flag on campus last month. He has admitted tearing down the flag but said he was acting out of patriotism because the Mexican flag wasn't accompanied by an American flag.

"This was a hate crime that can no way be hidden under the color of patriotic," said John Moya, president of the Albuquerque LULAC Council.

Lynch said those who say he acted out of hate are "trying to make themselves out to be the victims, when in fact the American flag was the victim."

The incident stemmed from miscommunication. The Mexican flag, put up for Mexican Independence Day, was never supposed to be left flying by itself. When the Army ROTC went to retire the U.S. and state flags on the evening of Sept. 14, they left the Mexican flag because they thought its owners would take it down. That didn't happen.

Army ROTC students who were supposed to raise the U.S. and state flags on the following Monday forgot to do so.

Lynch, an Air Force veteran, complained to university officials. When nothing was done, he pulled down the flag, ripped it apart and handed it over to the Air Force ROTC office.

Campus police later charged Lynch with misdemeanor criminal damage to property. If convicted, he could face up to six months in jail and up to a $500 fine.

Veterans and others have defended Lynch's actions as protecting the flag, not an act of racism.

Lynch, whose jury trial is scheduled for Nov. 19, also is accused by the student group El Centro de la Raza of using racial slurs against Mexicans. Someone identified as Peter Lynch called Mexicans "wetbacks" on an Internet posting in July.

Lynch's attorney, Tony D'Amato, has denied that his client has made any racist comments.

"If there's any message about this case, it's that it is only about the American flag," D'Amato said after Wednesday's arraignment.

http://www.lcsun-news.com/latest/ci_7081623

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Written by Bruce Daniels - ABQnewsSeeker
Wednesday, 03 October 2007
30-year-old UNM student to stand trial next month for tearing down Mexican flag.

Peter Lynch, 30, a University of New Mexico student accused of tearing down a Mexican flag on the UNM campus after it was displayed without the U.S. flag after Mexican Independence Day on Sept. 16, pleaded not guilty to a charge of criminal damage to property at his arraignment this morning, KOB-TV reported.

Lynch has admitted tearing down the flag but said he was acting out of patriotism, not racism, according to a story in this morning's Albuquerque Journal.

But El Centro de la Raza, a UNM department focused on Latino issues, claims that Lynch showed his true feelings for Mexican people by using the word "wetback" in a posting on a MySpace message board, the Journal reported.

Lynch, however, denied posting the message, according to the Journal.

"If there's any message about this case," Lynch's attorney John D'Amato told KOB-TV following this morning's arraignment, "it's that it is only about the American flag."

D'Amato also denied that his client has made any racist comments, Eyewitness News 4 reported.
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Take a look at the UNM web site
Estudiantes Contemporáneos del Norte
Dedicated to the Chicanos del Norte in the hope of recovering their lost sovereignty and assuming their place among the independent nations of the world.

http://www.unm.edu/~ecdn/index.html

EL PLAN DEL NORTE

We people of Mexican origin have been in the American Southwest (1848 to the present), or the Mexican north (900-1848 A.D.), from ancient Meso-American times, northward being our natural migration pattern. Later under Spanish hegemony, we Hispanicized Mexicanos continued our northward march setting up settlements in New Mexico (159, Arizona (1690), Texas (171, and California (1769). One hundred and seventy years ago the former colonial children of protestant England - the Anglo Americans, and we the mestizo children of Catholic Spain and indigenous natives - the Mexicanos - clashed along the north Mexican frontier. In that encounter the Anglo-Americans won and annexed half of Mexico's national territory along with 100,000 of us Mexicanos/Chicanos. Even though the "Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo" (184 promised to protect our civil, religious, and property rights, we soon found ourselves reduced to colonial status, subordinated, and subjugated - strangers in our own land. Since that time, we Norteños have lived under colonial rule of the United States with our language, identity, land grants, and religion under incessant attack.

The centuries-old battle for the Spanish borderlands is not yet resolved. The westward push of the norteamericanos continues, as does the northward march of Mexicanos. Let no one misunderstand the insidious anti-Mexicano propositions continually rearing their ugly head in California; they mark the broadside fired in the cultural war being raged to further homogenize American society. The mantras of "multiculturalism" and "diversity," touted by the dominant society are hollow as they implicitly note a diversity which is English speaking, and intent on retaining dominant Anglo cultural values.

The continuous accounts of police corruption, odious legal precedents, and overtly discriminatory and harsh sentencing practices that imprison our young people are further proof of anti-Mexicano attitudes. Yet the so-called "national" politicians fail to address our issues. Why should a colonized, marginalized, yet emerging majority population endorse such a system? A system whose foundation was built around a doctrine of white supremacy. A system designed to ensure the maintenance of a dominant Anglo oligarchy. A system which protects the individual over the good of the community, and a judicial system not centered on justice, but the protection of economic interests through the manipulation of the courts. Where do we the disenfranchised masses go to seek redress for our grievances?

A growing sense of alienation from the United States government pervades many sectors, creating a search for alternatives. One alternative is ethnic nationalism. The United States' foundation as a country was based on the right of self-determination: first as colonists from England pursuing religious and political liberty, then as revolutionaries rejecting British rule. It a tragic historical irony that such a country would deny that same inalienable right to subordinated nationalities within its territory. Our Native American brothers still struggle for full sovereignty within the United States, but their day will soon come. African-Americans also seek redress from centuries of oppression.

A cursory perusal of the global geo-political situation bears witness to the dismemberment and crumbling of old and tired multi-ethnic empires - the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, India, Indonesia, potentially China and eventually the United States. We are also witnessing the re-emergence of long suppressed nations - Croatia, Palestine, and Armenia amongst others. The tide of history is in favor of smaller states reemerging out of larger but faltering super-states.

Beginning in 1910, the Mexican Revolution initiated a ninety-year process by which Mexicanos began re-colonizing the former Mexican North. Currently the wounded and receding American Empire, with its false claim of "Liberty and Justice for all" is slowly being exposed as the widening gap between the rich and poor in the United States, and throughout the rest of the world, impels mass waves of immigration. The southern border of the United States is patrolled by the military to keep our people out of their ancestral home, yet ironically American economic and foreign policy objectives throughout Latin America impoverish and decimate indigenous communities forcing droves of immigrants to seek jobs in el Norte. Within the next 25 years, Mexico's population will reach 150 million. Perhaps as many as 50 million will make their way north, pressing against and spilling over the American border in a virtual völkerwanderungen. Mexicanos will cross that imaginary line and re-colonize those lands lost to the Americans in 1848.

This change in regional demography will eventually establish a Chicano/Mexicano majority in the American Southwest around 2080. Which in turn will create Quebec style separatism, and perhaps foster an intifada like student movement. Those who seek the welfare of our people should also anticipate the formation of a new country based on Justice, Equality, and the Self-Determination for its indigenous peoples. A country in the American Southwest and the Mexican North - La República del Norte!

http://www.unm.edu/~ecdn/planenglish.html