Thread: Mexican and U.S. lawmakers call for deportation moratorium

Isn't it touching the concern all these countries all of a sudden have for their citizens. We are the bad guys and none of this is their fault.

Do you hear them saying, oh we are so sorry for the way we treated you, all of you come on home and we'll find you a job, take care of your health, build schools for your children.. No, it some how became the responsibilty of the people of America to take care of all their poor or be the bad guy
WELL STUFF IT WE ARE TIRED OF IT, WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!

Originally Posted by MW

Mexican and U.S. lawmakers call for deportation moratorium

Personally, I believe there should be a moratorium against ALL immigration until illegal immigration is stopped and our borders are secured! We allow almost 1 million legal immigrants into the the United States yearly. Combine that 1 million with the 1 million illegals that are coming annually and we have up to 2 million immigrants (legal and illegal) entering our country annually. Folks that's 20 million a decade and 200 million a century. Those numbers don't even figure in the chain migration. Something has to give and unfortunately many of our lawmakers want it to be us!

Well said MW. We need to close it all down and regroup. Open the borders back up when we have a handle on the situation. No need to mop up the floor until we turn the water off.

Will history repeat itself?

Excerpt:

What Is to Be Done?

The starting point of immigration policy must be adequate capacity, and willingness, to actually enforce the law, whatever the content of the law happens to be. Lack of enforcement has been the central problem of immigration policy — Congress can design the most elegant legal and administrative framework imaginable, but it won’t matter if the immigration authorities are not permitted to use it to enforce the law.

Let me be clear: The chief reason for the lack of enforcement of our immigration laws is not incompetence or malfeasance on the part of immigration authorities, though there is surely plenty of that to go around. The real problem is the firm determination in Congress and successive administrations that the law not be enforced.

For instance, when the INS conducted raids during Georgia’s Vidalia onion harvest in 1998, thousands of illegal aliens — knowingly hired by the farmers — abandoned the fields to avoid arrest. By the end of the week, both of the state’s senators and three congressmen had sent an outraged letter to Washington complaining that the INS "does not understand the needs of America’s farmers," and that was the end of that.

So, the INS tried out a "kinder, gentler" means of enforcing the law, which fared no better. Rather than conduct raids on individual employers, Operation Vanguard in 1998-99 sought to identify illegal workers at all meatpacking plants in Nebraska through audits of personnel records. The INS then asked to interview those employees who appeared to be unauthorized — and the illegals ran off. The procedure was remarkably successful, and was meant to be repeated every two or three months until the plants were weaned from their dependence on illegal labor.

Local law enforcement officials were very pleased with the results, but employers and politicians vociferously criticized the very idea of enforcing the immigration law. Gov. Mike Johanns organized a task force to oppose the operation; the meat packers and the ranchers hired former Gov. Ben Nelson to lobby on their behalf; and, in Washington, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) made it his mission in life to pressure the Justice Department to stop. They succeeded, the operation was ended, and the senior INS official who had thought it up in the first place is now enjoying early retirement.

The INS got the message and developed a new interior enforcement policy that gave up on trying to actually reassert control over immigration and focused almost entirely on the important, but narrow, issues of criminal aliens and smugglers. As INS policy director Robert Bach told The New York Times in a 2000 story appropriately entitled "I.N.S. Is Looking the Other Way as Illegal Immigrants Fill Jobs": "It is just the market at work, drawing people to jobs, and the INS has chosen to concentrate its actions on aliens who are a danger to the community."

So, assuming we can actually muster the political will to act, what can we do with the nine million illegals and how can we prevent more from coming? The issue is usually presented as a stark choice — either arrest them all or give them amnesty. Since no one thinks we can, or even should, arrest nine million people en masse, the only remaining choice would seem to be amnesty, whatever fig leaves are used to mask that reality

http://www.cis.org/articles/2003/back1503.html

I think that it is also worth mentioning that people are also coming through our northern border. Our situation on our southern border is so horrific that I think we forget about other regions.

Not only should we continue deportation. We need to ramp it up in a major way!

Well said MW. We need to close it all down and regroup. Open the borders back up when we have a handle on the situation. No need to mop up the floor until we turn the water off.

I'm with you guys. "Legal" immigration is a huge mess. There really seems to be little control over the whole system and the determination of how people get to come here seems largely random. We also have groups of "exceptions" that bypass the line most people have to wait in. In many cases it seems no consideration is given for weather it is good for America only weather it is good for business or "multiculturalism". We have untold numbers of visa overstays and a continuing increase of the allowable numbers of visas.

We need a cooling off period and a reevaluation of our whole legal process.


Good point MW. That is why we MUST not only insist on enforcement but also verification of enforcement. The government has proven time and time again they can NOT be trusted on this issue.

BTT

Originally Posted by Neese

I think that it is also worth mentioning that people are also coming through our northern border. Our situation on our southern border is so horrific that I think we forget about other regions.

I am on the Northern border and they have done alot here, its mostly all mountains but border states up here have border patrol on horses, and we also have alot of helecopters flying, we also have Canada who is working with us not against us, and they have mounted police on the border, they have done alot.

The difference is we don't have 50 of them at one time running for the borders. up here 1or 2 once in a while, but they could be a terroriest, so they must be caught. Wash. is also putting in a new detention center in Yakima Wash. which is a big drug area for cartel, but most of the people from Wash. and Montana,come in from the southern border. We have alot in Southern Idaho but thats where are famous patatoes are grown :P and those illegals come from the southern border.

http://vivirlatino.com/2007/02/09/depor ... s.php#form

Deportation Moratorium in U.S.?
12:41 H | Topics: Immigration

Some lawmakers on both sides of the U.S. Southern border are asking for a stop to deportations of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. until comprehensive immigration reform laws are passed.

The foreign delegates from Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador and Nicaragua, on a two-day visit to Capitol Hill, pledged to work with their U.S. counterparts to fix the immigration system, which they said has led to a "family crisis" in Mexico and a staggering loss of life along the border. They also promised to help improve security, which they said was of paramount importance, especially after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The U.S. lawmakers involved include California Congresswoman Hilda Solis(who comes from a Mexican/Nicaraguan background), Texas Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, Massachusetts Representative James McGovern, and Illinois Representative Jan Schakowsky. No U.S. Republican lawmakers took part in the Washington D.C. meetings and not surprisingly some Republicans had strong opinions about the proposal and those supporting it.

"Millions of people are working in this country illegally and sending home billions of dollars in remittances. Those dollars help to prop up corrupt and incompetent governments," said Rep. Tom Tancredo. "What is discouraging is the apparent willingness of those two groups to put other countries' interest above our own," he said.
Kurt Bardella, a spokesman for Rep. Brian Bilbray, R- Calif., chairman of the Immigration Reform Caucus, said that Mexican officials should be looking at the problems in their own country that cause so many to leave before criticizing the United States and that a moratorium on deportations will only increase illegal immigration.
Also present at the meetings was the son of Elvira Arellano.

So what do you all think? Is a moratorium on deportations a good idea in order to force the U.S. Congress to seriously work on immigration reform?

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Friday, Feb 09 2007 | 19:30H:

There should be no suspension of enforcement of U.S. laws simply because the offenders and their professional ethnic hustling advocates, and meddling foreign governments demand it. The law is the law, you don't like it, and you're not a citizen, leave

The United States should stop deporting illegal immigrants and separating families while Congress works on reforming immigration laws, a group of lawmakers from Latin America and several Democratic House members said Thursday.

Go figure.

The U.S. lawmakers involved include California Congresswoman Hilda Solis(who comes from a Mexican/Nicaraguan background), Texas Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, Massachusetts Representative James McGovern, and Illinois Representative Jan Schakowsky

Well that is some of them at least. Have some rather strongly worded letters to write.