Thread: Napotlitano: Illegal Immigration NOT a Crime?

Entering the US illegally is a crime. At minimum it is a misdemeanor which is a crime, same as misdemeanor hit and run, same as misdemeanor assault. In addition, to fines and imprisonment, illegal aliens are also deported. For any official of any level of US government, let alone the official in charge of immigration enforcement to tell our country that breaking immigration law is not a crime is just unconscionable. They're not only breaking our immigration laws, they're violating our labor laws, our civil rights laws, cheating our workers out of jobs and wages, cheating on our tax laws, stealing false documents, committing identity theft, paying smugglers, running drugs, costing our governments and taxpayers hundreds of billions a year, suing our hospitals and employers when they get sick or hurt in a country they aren't even supposed to be in, exploding our legal population with their anchor babies, killing our people on the highways and in crimes, and putting the very security and standard of living Americans have worked so hard to build for the past 300 years in total and complete jeopardy including the demise of the very government we formed to protect what we created and what we built.

This woman is a disgrace to the term public servant. Throw her out or make her do her job and until then states will have to enforce US immigration law.

Two administrations of federal executive management from both sides of the aisle have proven that we can not trust the federal government with this matter on any level. States will have to use their resources, their existing police, state troopers, county sheriffs, state national guard troops and deputized citizens to enforce US immigration law.

And if the federal government says "no, you can't do that" tell the traitors to read the 10th Amendment to the US Constitution and then go blow it out their ass.

Originally Posted by ShockedinCalifornia

Well, I found this and maybe it explains what she is saying. That an illegal immigrant's unlawful entry is an "infraction" of U.S. law and not criminal. But in my gray logic of this, I still can't see how deliberately breaking a law is not an intent to commit a violation and therefore be a crime against the law.

Infraction: a minor offense that is not criminal in nature but rather is a civil public offense punishable by a fine only. Examples of infractions include: speeding, failure to fasten a safety belt.

http://www.isc.idaho.gov/mguide/glossary_terms.html
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infraction - A breach, violation, or infringement; as of a law, a contract, a right or duty. A violation of a statute for which the only sentence authorized is a fine and which violation is expressly designated as an infraction.

http://www.the3rdjudicialdistrict.com/glossary.htm

Infractions
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An infraction, sometimes called a petty offense, is the violation of an administrative regulation, an ordinance, a municipal code, and, in some jurisdictions, a state or local traffic rule. In many states an infraction is not considered a criminal offense and thus not punishable by incarceration. Instead, such jurisdictions treat infractions as civil offenses. Even in jurisdictions that treat infractions as criminal offenses, incarceration is not usually contemplated as punishment, and when it is, confinement is limited to serving time in a local jail. Like misdemeanors, infractions are often defined in very broad language. For example, one state provides that any offense that is defined "without either designation as a felony or a misdemeanor or specification of the class or penalty is a petty offense" (see AZ ST § 13-602).

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United States law
A civil infraction is violation of the law less serious than a misdemeanor, and which usually does not attach certain indiviual rights such as a jury trial. The very definition of a civil infraction is that it is not a crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Infraction

Well we know one thing for sure, once they get a job, use false ID, Lie to get drivers license or drive with out one they are a criminal...I guess if they crossed the border and did nothing but stand there they are fine but once they do anything besides eat and sleep they are a ciminial!!

Indeed they are, sosadforus. For anyone to claim illegal immigration is anything less than a myriad of crimes, is to lie boldly to the American People with "straight up" treason in their hearts, because no one who rises to the position of a Governor of a Border State could ever be that stupid.

SoSad's source is here:

http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/crim ... _crime.htm

What is the difference between a civil offense and a crime?

A civil offense is an infraction of a law that is not a crime. This may be something like a routine traffic offense such as speeding. The only penalty for a civil offense is a fine. A crime is a violation of the law that is punishable by a fine or a jail sentence. A Class Three or Class Four misdemeanor in Virginia is only punishable by a fine. These may be violations of noise ordinances or other offenses not involving injuries to other persons or their property. A Class One misdemeanor is punishable by up to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine. A Class Two misdemeanors are punishable by 6 months in jail and a $1,000 fine. Felonies are punishable by one or more years in prison and fines of up to $100,000.

According to this interpretation (VA), it looks to me like it's still a crime. I just don't kow why Napolitano would say something like this but it sounds like a position statement to me.

So true Judy, DITTO, I agree!!

Yes "Shocked" it says "A crime is a violation of the law that is punishable by a fine or a jail sentence".

The law says it is a $50 fine and up to 6 months in jail...so in my eyes that makes it a crime!

So, Napolitano is giving another policy amnesty to illegal aliens.

There are illegal aliens living here that are self employed. That's right, they have acquired licenses to sell cars, they sell scrap metal, they mow lawns, they sell goods at the flea market, they open stores, they open restaurants, they run auto mechanic shops, tire shops, have too many garage sales, sell tacos out of trucks, they are day labors, roofers, contractors, painters, independent truck drivers, house keepers and baby sitters... Hell, they could even be immigration attorneys, if the bar lets them take the exam. Some are drug dealers, human traffickers, thieves, prostitutes...

What about these illegal aliens Napolitano? Are you going to go after their employer? You know they are more dangerous than the guy working for someone else. These people could injure a client or damage their property and simply walk away. They move to another state and just start over.

Dixie

...and the politicians that have created this problem by not enforcing our countries laws!!!

Including our own government who has hired illegals....go get em!

They don't care, I heard the supreme court said today we have to pay for their education rather we like it or not...did anyone else hear this
they also said illegal children will make up 10% of Calif. schools by next year....

UMMMM wonder why Americans are fed up!!

What about these illegal aliens Napolitano? Are you going to go after their employer? You know they are more dangerous than the guy working for someone else. These people could injure a client or damage their property and simply walk away. They move to another state and just start over.

Exactly. How about the guy posing as a dentist in his garage? The "plastic surgeons" doing their craft in their basement. The hairdressers who "cut hair good", and run businesses without licenses, training or inspections, the bath tub cheese factory that doesn't exist that sold salmonella filled cheese in Mexican groceries. And the list goes on.

I also heard Obama pretty much told AZ today to go to hell about more boots on the ground there...

It is getting mighty up setting that they refuse to close the border... one of the Indians down there said that at least 450 a day were crossing on the reservation.