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    There is no Catch and Release except that which is required by ... law and court ruling .... those are the "catch and release" issues Trump wants to resolve with legislation if he can't figure out a way to rewrite the regulations that can somehow bypass the need for legislation. It would result in more lawsuits if he does it, and it may not stick, so Congress needs to take action and clean up these loopholes for UACs and these Phony Asylum Seekers.
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    Should have been done day one and there IS catch & release. He made no changes. This has been in the news, from border agents reports to stats like the graphic below, to stories of 88k can stay of this thread.

    13 months more of this very expensive program that has been ongoing for 9yrs now. He is so worried about paying for programs that are beneficial to Americans yet this atrocity is the real money grabber along with every illegal working here anchor babying on our dollar. trump is not stopping that either. These people will be around for years if not permanently too. It is appalling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    There is no Catch and Release except that which is required by ... law and court ruling .... those are the "catch and release" issues Trump wants to resolve with legislation if he can't figure out a way to rewrite the regulations that can somehow bypass the need for legislation. It would result in more lawsuits if he does it, and it may not stick, so Congress needs to take action and clean up these loopholes for UACs and these Phony Asylum Seekers.
    How many times had Trump told us catch & release had ended? I've personally heard it several times myself. Well, as we can clearly see, it has not ended.

    Regardless of who is to blame, President Trump has lied to us about catch & release. We heard for over year that catch & release had ended when it actually hadn't!

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    How many times had Trump told us catch & release had ended? I've personally heard it several times myself. Well, as we can clearly see, it has not ended.

    Regardless of who is to blame, President Trump has lied to us about catch & release. We heard for over year that catch & release had ended when it actually hadn't!
    There are two separate issues. One is the Border Patrol Catch and Release at the border. Trump stopped that early last year with his Executive Order. The other one is called catch and release, but it's not Border Patrol releases, these are releases ordered by the courts in accordance with the language of the statutes that Trump wants to change. It's two of his 71 point DACA DEAL conditions, it's in the Goodlatte bill, it was in the Grassley bill, it's in Cotton's Raise Act bill and probably in some other bills as well. None of them have passed, so this type of release continues and will until Congress changes the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    There are two separate issues. One is the Border Patrol Catch and Release at the border. Trump stopped that early last year with his Executive Order. The other one is called catch and release, but it's not Border Patrol releases, these are releases ordered by the courts in accordance with the language of the statutes that Trump wants to change. It's two of his 71 point DACA DEAL conditions, it's in the Goodlatte bill, it was in the Grassley bill, it's in Cotton's Raise Act bill and probably in some other bills as well. None of them have passed, so this type of release continues and will until Congress changes the law.
    Catch & release is catch & release, regardless of the how and why. Trump and the Secretary of DHS (then Gen. John Kelly) told us several times last year that catch & release had ended. Of course when the border patrol and especially AG Jeff Sessions (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/j...l-unacceptable) started coming out with the truth, the talk ended.

    Lesson hopefully learned: Don't purposely lie to the American people to make political hay when you know the truth! The Trump administration knew very well that this was something that couldn't stay hush-hush for long. Trump also should have known he couldn't actually end catch & release since there wasn't enough detention space available.

    Regardless of what some may want to think, there was some deceit on the catch & release issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post


    Catch & release is catch & release, regardless of the how and why. Trump and the Secretary of DHS (then Gen. John Kelly) told us several times last year that catch & release had ended. Of course when the border patrol and especially AG Jeff Sessions (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/j...l-unacceptable) started coming out with the truth, the talk ended.

    Lesson hopefully learned: Don't purposely lie to the American people to make political hay when you know the truth! The Trump administration knew very well that this was something that couldn't stay hush-hush for long. Trump also should have known he couldn't actually end catch & release since there wasn't enough detention space available.

    Regardless of what some may want to think, there was some deceit on the catch & release issue.
    Yes, those are the DOJ Releases through the immigration courts based on the statutes. Here's your own article where Sessions explains that legislation is needed to fix that, because he has a big backlog in DOJ. This is the legislation that Trump is clamoring for so these people can be bounced out by Border Patrol at the border instead of taken into custody and processed for hearings through DOJ.

    Jeff Sessions admits 'catch and release' is still happening at the border: 'It's still unacceptable'
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    October 18, 2017 12:55 PM

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions admitted Wednesday that the Justice Department and federal immigration officials are facing significant hurdles in trying to end the immigration practice known as "catch and release."

    Republicans have long complained about the federal policy that involves detaining illegal immigrants and then releasing them in the hope that they would turn up for their immigration court hearing. Thousands never showed up, which led the Trump administration in February to say they would move to immediately return those illegal immigrants to their home countries.

    Despite that change, however, Sessions said the reality is that the government is being overwhelmed with the number of illegal immigrants still coming in, which is why catch and release is still effectively happening.

    "It's not the policy, it's just the reality that there is so many people claiming and being entitled to hearings that we don't have the ability to provide those hearings, and they're being released into the community and they're not coming back for their hearings," Sessions told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    "It's still unacceptable," he said.

    Sessions said there was a backlog of 300,000 immigration cases in 2011, and now that number is "over 600,000."

    Sessions said his department was examining what solutions his department might have "short of [requiring] legislation," but went on to add that filling all of the administrative gaps for robust deportation, "legislation is critical."

    "We are adding judges," Sessions added later. "We've added 50 already. We'll have another 40 by January. And the backlog, instead of going up, will be going down, and we'll continue to work at that."

    The attorney general was responding to questions from Texas Senator Ted Cruz, who said he was being informed by conversations with Customs and Border Protection officers that "catch and release" wasn't being slowed or shut off, an issue that Trump campaigned on.

    A June report by Reuters suggested that there had been no significant change to catch and release despite the change in administration's policy.

    Cruz further noted that illegal border crossings appeared to have dramatically dropped in the early months of the administration, but that a recent surge was beginning to concern residents who live along the border.

    Federal immigration officials also deal with other legal and logistical constraints that can significantly slow deportations, like a shortage of beds in detention facilities and a previous court ruling that limited the stay of women and children to only 21 days.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/j...l-unacceptable

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    See? The story was circulated by Ted Cruz, who should as a lawyer and a member of the US Senate know better than anyone that this is a matter of legislation and funding, a responsibility of the US Congress. I sure hope Ted has introduced some legislation to solve the problem Congress caused and so far refuses to fix and whose responsibility for enforcement in this arena is 100% with Jeff Sessions, Attorney General and head of the US Justice Department responsible for all, 100% of immigration court hearings.

    But it doesn't bother me at all if you want to blame Trump for it. He's working every possible way to build enough pressure on Congress to pass the needed legislation using the big "SURGE" at the border that's so huge troops are needed at the border to contain it, to get the legislation passed.
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    And still not done, 13 more months and more coming -CATCH AND RELEASE HAS NEVER STOPPED! To say it has ended is delusional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post


    Catch & release is catch & release, regardless of the how and why. Trump and the Secretary of DHS (then Gen. John Kelly) told us several times last year that catch & release had ended. Of course when the border patrol and especially AG Jeff Sessions (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/j...l-unacceptable) started coming out with the truth, the talk ended.

    Lesson hopefully learned: Don't purposely lie to the American people to make political hay when you know the truth! The Trump administration knew very well that this was something that couldn't stay hush-hush for long. Trump also should have known he couldn't actually end catch & release since there wasn't enough detention space available.

    Regardless of what some may want to think, there was some deceit on the catch & release issue.
    Yes, because Catch and Release by DHS, did end early last year. The catch and release that didn't end is the releases by DOJ that DHS has nothing to do with. Trump's EO only addressed what could legally be ended, that is the releases by Border Patrol, not DOJ. I mean if you want to keep going on about this, it just makes Sessions look bad, because it's his department that is still catching and releasing because that's the law and will be until Congress changes it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artist View Post
    And still not done, 13 more months and more coming -CATCH AND RELEASE HAS NEVER STOPPED! To say it hasn't is delusional.
    Border Patrol releases in DHS did end early last year. What didn't end are the legally required releases by DOJ which can't end until the law is changed.
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    With the immigration loopholes, this is an opportunity for countries to empty their jails and prisons, send gangs, the others undesired in their nation. Attach a child and the United States will take them in through asylum claims and the "catch and release" family plan, never to be seen again after a few weeks of possible detention.

    This is a back door for refugees, an opportunity for jihadis, terrorists, other American hating people and groups to invade and sow more seeds of discord to transform America. We are helping foreign citizens to overtake us and destroy us with our poorly designed immigration policies.

    The Trump Administration, DHS, DOJ had better use our laws and though I repeat myself, declare some emergency situation to shut the invasion down. Why are we not demanding Mexico secure their northern border? Why are we giving them anything or speaking with them and saying they are cooperating. Hate to see what lack of cooperation would look like. It is reported that some in Mexico are again threatening to let drug cartels have their way with us as if they do much now to stop them.
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