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    This is just an assumption at this point. If he tries the people will be outraged and not just us!!! That might spark the 80% or so of american citizens to take to the streets, for shure.
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    President McCain

    His solution to illegal immigration is to simply declare them all legal.
    He thinks they will enroll in a program to resolve their legal status, pay back taxes, and pass a background check. How many criminal aliens will submit to a backgroud check?
    There are so many holes in his "program". Mainly the absence of penalties for non-compliance. Most illegals have proven to be non-compliant when it comes to obeying the law.

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    The issue he doesn't understand is that illegals don't want to be citizens. They want to milk the American taxpayers for whatever they can get and eventually go back to live in Mexico on the cash they've made by illegally working in the U.S.
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    I agree wholeheartedly with Joe Farah. And Chuck Baldwin totally knocks it out of the ballpark with this article:

    CAN TWO WALK TOGETHER WITHOUT AGREEMENT?

    By Chuck Baldwin
    September 3, 2008
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    John McCain's selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his Vice Presidential running mate was exactly what he needed to do to make himself competitive against Barack Obama in the November elections. (For the record, I predicted three weeks ago that Palin would be his choice.) As a result (and right on cue), conservatives throughout the country--especially Christian conservatives--are now fully supporting McCain's candidacy for President. Even James "I-will-never-vote-for-John-McCain" Dobson has endorsed McCain.

    By all appearances, Governor Palin is a true conservative. She is pro-life. She is pro-Second Amendment. Alaska is one of only two states (Vermont is the other) that recognize the right of their citizens to carry handguns without a Concealed Carry Weapon (CCW) permit. She was rightly critical of the invasion of Iraq, once calling it a "war for oil." Speaking of oil, she believes we should drill for oil in Alaska and throughout the U.S., and is critical of the federal government for allowing America to become dependent upon foreign oil for our energy needs. She even heaped praises upon the Republican that Republicans love to hate: Ron Paul. Beyond that, Lynette Clark, the chairman of the Alaskan Independence Party (the party under which yours truly is on the Presidential ballot this year) reports that Sarah Palin was a member of the party back in the early 90s. This is very encouraging in that the AIP is a patriotic, states' rights party that holds strong sentiments opposing the New World Order propensities of the two major parties. In essence, Sarah Palin is everything that John McCain isn't. Which leads to the question that was asked long ago by the Hebrew prophet: "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

    When the no-compromise constitutionalist, Ron Paul, was asked by CNN's Wolf Blitzer if he would consider being John McCain's running mate, he said no. His reason for that was that should McCain do something fundamentally counter to his constitutional convictions--such as bombing Iran without a Declaration of War (or other possible unconstitutional actions that Paul knows McCain is predisposed to)--he would have to resign. Knowing this, he (Paul) could not in good conscience accept a McCain invitation to join his ticket (not that McCain would ever ask him to be his running mate; Ron was not even invited to participate in the Republican convention, for Pete's sake).

    Herein lies the problem for Sarah Palin. How can a principled conservative support the policies and actions of an unprincipled globalist such as John McCain? As Vice President, Palin will be required to promote and defend McCain's big-government, liberal, and globalist plans. For example, what will she do when John McCain proposes amnesty for millions of illegal aliens, which he is certain to do? What will she do when McCain proposes to close gun shows, or at least the private sale of firearms at gun shows? What will she do when he proposes to increase federal spending for abortion providers (which he has done numerous times as senator)? What will she do when he promotes federal spending for embryonic stem cell research? What will she do when John McCain proliferates Bush's police state machinations by expanding the Patriot Act and similar legislation? What will Palin do when McCain decides to nuke Iran (and who knows what else), not only without a Declaration of War by Congress, but also without provocation or justification? What will she do as John McCain expands the Security and Prosperity Partnership with Canada and Mexico? What will she do as McCain opens the door of the NAFTA superhighway and the North American Union? What will she do as John McCain allows the United Nations to dictate and manipulate America's foreign policy? Again, can two walk together except they be agreed?

    Let's face it: John McCain is using Sarah Palin as inducement to trick conservatives into accepting his liberal, big-government, globalist candidacy. And, sadly, it is working.

    As I have said before, today's national Christian leaders are among the most gullible people on the planet. They are so desperate to be invited to sit at the king's table that they will compromise practically any principle. But accepting John McCain was a not only a bitter pill, it was a BIG pill, one they could not get down without a major dose of syrup. And that is exactly what Governor Palin brings to the table: sweet syrup to help conservatives swallow John McCain.

    Unfortunately, the things that make Palin so attractive (her conservative principles) are the things that she will be forced to surrender in order to be John McCain's running mate. The best thing that can happen to Sarah Palin is for John McCain to lose the November election. This would allow her to go into the 2012 elections as perhaps the Republican Presidential frontrunner. If McCain wins in November, and Palin is forced to serve at the pleasure of this globalist insider for four years, she will be forever ruined as a genuine constitutional conservative. Remember, "No man can serve two masters." One cannot be faithful to the Constitution and a constitutional apostate such as John McCain at the same time. That is an absolute impossibility.

    What our conservative friends need to wake up to is the depth of duplicity and wickedness that permeates Washington politics (in both major parties) today. There is nothing that these globalist insiders at the Council on Foreign Relations (of which John McCain is a longtime member) will not do to fulfill their power-mad plans. There is nothing too evil, too sinister, or too iniquitous, including using, abusing, chewing up and then spitting out good people such as Sarah Palin. Even more unfortunate and sad is the fact that the James Dobsons of this world are too blind to see it.
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    I predict one of the very first orders of business for McCain will be to sign a sweeping bill granting amnesty to tens of millions of illegal aliens in the United States. This will be a heinous piece of legislation approved by Democratic majorities in the House and Senate and opposed by most Republicans. You can take this prediction to the bank.
    Exactly and I don't understand why people can't see this. If Obama wins the Republicans will fight him tooth and nail, but if McCain wins, the Republicans will bow down to his every wish. Yet the sheepish Republican voters will all act shocked when he stabs them all in the back the first chance he gets. Some of you people will never learn.

    If there ever was a time to vote 3rd party, it is now. If you can hold your nose for McCain then who would you draw the line on?

    What's the up and under if it hasn't happened already in the if you don't like Sarah Palin then you are a sexist male chauvinist pig card that they pull out if you happen to dare criticize a woman now a days just like the Bushies did when they tried to shove that awful Harriet Miers down our throats.

    Sarah Palin no matter what her stances are is nothing more than a figure head, eye candy. She is being used to fool the Republican sheeple into voting for McClown.
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    Yeah, I actually do like Palin in a lot of ways, but does anyone really think McCain will suddenly change his mind about amnesty just because Palin might? And I say "might" because we don't know for certain where she even stands. I do feel like she is being used to lure the conservatives back to McCain. Can't she see that she is just a pawn? How sad really....
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    You know, AZ has been stuck with McCain for ages and I'm the first to agree that he should be viewed with raised eyebrows and anyone in the same room with him should......probably......walk out backwards and never take their eyes off him a second.

    On the other hand, all of this discussion about him using Mrs. Palin to "trick" his way into the White House is, I find, not very complimentary to Sarah.

    We hear how greatly admired and well liked she is, how strong in her convictions, a Republican in the truest sense of the word, a governor who honestly cares about her constituency and actually GETS things done, a woman who sticks to her values and convictions, has fought tirelessly against, and to end, government corruption, etc.

    Is the implication that such a woman has suddenly thrown ALL of that out a window to do a sudden turn around in conspiring against the American people, as part of a trick by McCain, to put him in the WH? Or, perhaps, that she is not any more intelligent and savvy than to be duped by McCain herself?

    She didn't accept the nomination blindly and uninformed, is familiar with her party's platform for 2008, has been briefed as to McCain's policy and intent, etc., the woman is definitely not an idiot, and....to me anyway....neither scenario seems very likely.
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    McCain has already committed himself to La RAZA and is unlikely to back down.

    WE WILL BE IN A WAR AGAINST MCCAIN OVER THIS ISSUE. IT WILL BE THEM AND HIM AGAINST US AND WE WILL WIN! MCPAIN DOESN'T STAND A CHANCE OF GRANTING ALL OF THESE PEOPLE AMENESTY WITHOUT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC'S CONSENT.

    John McCain, we will see you defeated over this issue and there will be no signing of any such bill. Take your globalist goat-smelling breath retoric and go for an outdated senior hike. Maybe that will wake you up.
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    I agree with what Chuck Baldwin said about it 100%. I think she is a ploy to get conservatives on board, while she covertly adjusts her views to fit McCain's, and tows the line in DC. Her silence on illegal immigration is indicative of that. I have been saying this for days.

    Was there a screening process for this thread? These are by far the most informed posts I have seen on the matter
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    I admire Palin tremendously===

    but not enough to bring my vote to McCain. I am staying 3rd party. I want a constitutionalist in office.

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