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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    The room was dead silent when Trump started pushing to import more foreign workers, and then the crowd cheered when he said they have to leave!
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    I actually watched the speech, twice, to be sure I got exactly what Trump said. He didn't say "more". So all our "friends" are lying for clicks. Whatever. I guess that's the business they're in and no one cares but me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Dman1200, I don't know what people are thinking other than what they post and everyone is in a tizz over an erroneous false headline that says Trump said "more" when he didn't say that, not once in his speech. If you feel that you should dump the first President since Richard Nixon who gives even 1 crap about the American Worker, that's your choice, that's everyone choice. But Breitbart lied in its headline claiming Trump wants "more", when that isn't what he said and that most certainly is not what he wants. He issued the lowest number of farmer worker visas which are the H2A visas last year in decades. He refused to increase the H2B visas for months even though Congress had given authority to increase them I believe by 65,000, until finally in July of 2017, he had Nielsen agree to increase them by 15,000, that's 7,500 for each 6 month period, a one time event, because Tillis was blocking one of his nominees, I forget which one, and even then, the rules Trump enforced were so strict and it was so late in the first 6 month session which starts in March, they didn't even issue the full 15,000.

    In his speech he was confusing the farmer's visas with the H2B visas. The farmer's visas are the H2A.

    I have no problem with objecting to any increase in these programs, I oppose them all and as you know wish they would all be eliminated, because I want a 10 to 20 Year Moratorium on ALL Immigration including temporary guest worker programs.

    But I also object to false reporting which is what Breitbart did with their headline saying "more" when Trump didn't say that.

    So if everyone wants to get hysterical over a false headline, that's fine. I'm going to post the article about Thom Tillis and this whole H2B thing that happened last year.
    Okay, you're the only one I see having a tizzy over a single word in a news article headline. On H-2A visas, there is no numerical number on H-2A visas that are allowed to come here for work in the agricultural industry. If those numbers were less than normal it had nothing to do with Trump and more to do with the agricultural industry (farmers) hiring more illegals to get their workers instead of using the H-2A visa program. As for the H-2B visas, all of us were extremely disappointed when the Trump administration raised those numbers, especially after his repeated talk of placing American's first! There was no defense for the increased numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I actually watched the speech, twice, to be sure I got exactly what Trump said. He didn't say "more". So all our "friends" are lying for clicks. Whatever. I guess that's the business they're in and no one cares but me.
    He implied it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Okay, you're the only one I see having a tizzy over a single word in a news article headline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Okay, you're the only one I see having a tizzy over a single word in a news article headline. On H-2A visas, there is no numerical number on H-2A visas that are allowed to come here for work in the agricultural industry. If those numbers were less than normal it had nothing to do with Trump and more to do with the agricultural industry (farmers) hiring more illegals to get their workers instead of using the H-2A visa program. As for the H-2B visas, all of us were extremely disappointed when the Trump administration raised those numbers, especially after his repeated talk of placing American's first! There was no defense for the increased numbers.

    Yes, we are all "extremely disappointed" last year over the one-time 15,000 additional H2B visas. They came, they worked, their employers paid all their taxes and a prevailing wage, and they left. Ancient history. No crime, no welfare, no anchor babies, no "cheap labor". The H2B visa workers are paid the prevailing wage by law and it's now strictly enforced by Trump which is why they didn't even use all of the 15,000 he agreed to issue out of the 70,000 he could have issued. I realize that you don't understand or don't care what is going on so I'm going to end my discussion of this issue. I brought the fact about Breitbart's headline being false to everyone's attention, so you are informed, but how you choose to use the information, is up to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post


    He implied it.
    In your deck of Tarot Cards. Fact is: Trump didn't say "more".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Yes, we are all "extremely disappointed" last year over the one-time 15,000 additional H2B visas. They came, they worked, their employers paid all their taxes and a prevailing wage, and they left. Ancient history. No crime, no welfare, no anchor babies, no "cheap labor". The H2B visa workers are paid the prevailing wage by law and it's now strictly enforced by Trump which is why they didn't even use all of the 15,000 he agreed to issue out of the 70,000 he could have issued. I realize that you don't understand or don't care what is going on so I'm going to end my discussion of this issue. I brought the fact about Breitbart's headline being false to everyone's attention, so you are informed, buthow you choose to use the information, is up to you.
    I asked you to show me proof that the increased visa quotas weren't used, but you refused. So why make a statement you can't back up? I have no reason to believe every single one of the 15,000 increased H-2B visas were not used and neither should you. Unless you have evidence to prove otherwise, it is safe to assume they were all used.

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    Trump expands H-2B visa program as critics say it's ripe for abuse ...
    www.foxnews.com/.../trump-expands-h-2b-visa-program-as-critics-say-its-ripe-for-abus...
    Jul 21, 2017 - The visa is for non-agricultural seasonal help for industries like construction, landscaping and fishing. ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    I asked you to show me proof that the increased visa quotas weren't used, but you refused. So why make a statement you can't back up? I have no reason to believe every single one of the 15,000 increased H-2B visas were not used and neither should you. Unless you have evidence to prove otherwise, it is safe to assume they were all used.
    There was a news report about it last year. Look it up yourself. I don't work for you.
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