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    Report Back from Jan 29 Meeting with Speaker Nancy Pelosi's

    Appears to be a kind of report from the National Immigrant Solidarity Network
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    http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/0 ... 359568.php

    Report from 1/29 Meeting with Pelosi's Staff about Immigrant Rights Issues
    by ISN
    Thursday Feb 8th, 2007 4:48 PM
    Report Back from Jan 29 Meeting with Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Staff about Our
    Open Letter and the Immigrant Rights Issues
    Lee Siu Hin
    National Coordinator
    National Immigrant Solidarity Network
    On Monday, January 29, a group of us, representatives from San Francisco La
    Raza Legal Centro, National Organization of Women, veterans and I met with
    Speaker Nancy Pelosi's staff on immigration and present our open letter and
    exchanges ideas on the immigration issues.
    We met for one hour and had a frank and open discussion about the
    immigration legislation issues. We have some agreements and difference at our points of
    unity.
    - While Rep. Pelosi supports the DREAM Acts and the immigrant labor rights,
    we disagree on the guest workers program, she supports the program and we’re
    against it. The staffer of the Pelosi office told us we’re the ONLY(?)
    national organizations had lobby her against the program—while almost all other
    national organizations had told Pelosi that they’ll support the guest worker
    program.
    - We disagrees on the border fence program, and the anti-immigrant bill,
    they told me we cannot get the perfect pro-immigrant bill to pass in the
    Congress, and we need to make “compromise” on supporting certain enforcement part
    of the immigrant bill in order we can pass something this year.
    - They told us 2007 is the best possible year to push for comprehensive
    immigration reform legislation, and we only have until August, 2007 to do this, “
    if we missed this year (2007), we’ll need to wait 10, even 20 years before
    next chance to push for the comprehensive immigration reform legislation at the
    Congress.” They told us.
    - Basically, they told us immigrant organizations from across the country
    need to work together and “compromise” what kinds of comprehensive immigration
    reform legislation they want to push, they said we need collectively agrees
    on what to push and what to give up (or put on hold) in order we can have
    realistic a chance to pass this year.
    - They suggest we need to focus on local level lobbying to gain supports
    from Congressional members at the anti-immigrant district for passing the
    comprehensive immigration reform legislation, because they are the “wild card” on
    the vote on the Congress, if anti-immigrant groups mobilize their base to
    demand their elected officials to against the pro-immigrant bill, they will do
    so, however, if we can mobilize their local communities and interfaith leaders
    to talk with them, we’ll have chance to gain their supports to pass the
    bill.
    In addition, we also raised our concern to them about the war in Iraq, the
    war funding and the link with the immigrant rights movements.
    In conclusion, we aggress to maintain our communication for the coming
    future on drafting the comprehensive immigration reform legislation.
    Reports from Other Congressional Visit and Across the Country
    In addition, thank you for everyone who had visited and call your
    representatives at the Call-In day, at dozen states.
    Here’re some reports from the call with their representatives:
    New York
    By: Diana

    I visited the offices of 6 New York congresspeople [at the Washington D.C.]:
    Charles Rangel, Nita Lowey, Jose Serrano, Jerrold Nalder, Maurice Hinchey
    and Yvette Clarke to begin a dialogue on how to: obtain progressive immigration
    legislation, defeat any reactionary legislation that is proposed, and impose
    a moratorium on arrests and deportations until congress passes good
    legislation. I selected these representatives based on their voting records on past
    immigration bills and their power ranking in Congress. I added Yvette Clarke
    because politically she may be better than any other NY Democrat in that she
    is not entrenched, she is new and progressive and may actually want to do
    something, she is the daughter of immigrants and she has a large Haitian/Jamaican
    immigrant constituency.

    The questions and ideas I posed to the congressional staffers included:

    -will it be more productive to push for progressive legislation in the next
    2 years, i.e. are there currently enough votes particularly on the Republican
    side (because the Democrats will need Republican votes) to produce and pass
    progressive legislation,

    -or wait until after the 2008 elections when hopefully more Democrats will
    be elected and concentrate on defeating or staving off any unacceptable bills
    in the meantime.

    -as it is unacceptable to make immigrants pay with imprisonment,
    deportation, separation from their families, and destruction of their lives for the
    inability of congress to pass comprehensive legislation even though it has been
    on the table for 6-7 years, a moratorium should be placed on arrests and
    deportations until such time as congress passes an immigration bill. How do we
    make a moratorium a reality. Who will take the leadership in congress.

    Rangel’s Chief of Staff was the only one forthcoming with an answer, the
    others needed time to talk to their reps. He said the following:

    -Its not the time to take up progressive immigration legislation because
    Democrats want to win in 2008 elections (the thinking being that Democrats
    supporting immigration will lose votes for Presidential and other candidates
    running for election – not sure if this is true. See Rob Paral’s article on who
    voted for Sensenbrenner – Reps who voted for that bill are most likely to
    represent districts with relatively few undocumented immigrants.)

    -Rangel would probably support a bill calling for moratorium on
    arrests/deportations but would not lead it because of his work on Ways and Means Comm.

    -leadership on immigration will probably come out of Black Caucus –John
    Conyers and Betty Thompson.

    After taking this first step the dialogue needs to continue with the
    staffers in the NY District offices. We need to find Democratic leadership to
    introduce a bill to place a moratorium on arrests/deportation and then to introduce
    progressive immigration bill that immigrants, their families, friends and
    communities and progressive people can support.


    Iowa
    From: R. Evely Gildersleeve, Ph.D.

    Representative Tom Latham, Iowa's 4th District - I called the DC office and
    asked to speak to my congressman. The staffer told me he was unavailable
    today but would I like to leave a message. I did. I left the script provided by
    ISN.

    Senator Chuck Grassley - The DC office told me that Senator Grassley was in
    Iowa today. So, I tried the Des Moines office. The staffer's first response
    was to tell me that the Senator was in DC today. I informed her that I had
    just spoken with the DC office, and they told me that the Senator was in Iowa
    today. She replied, "Well, I don't have the Senator's schedule, sir." I asked
    to leave the Senator a message. She asked for my address. I gave the script
    provided by ISN, then gave my address.

    Senator Tom Harkin - The DC office told me the Senator was traveling today.
    I began to leave the script as my message, but then was put on hold. The
    staffer returned and took my message. He never asked for my name or address.
    Minnesota
    From: Michelle L'Allier
    I called in to Jim Ramsted's office, District 3 of Minnesota, today to
    register my desire as a voter in his district for his support of comprehensive
    immigration reform legislation, using your script points. I was respectfully
    received and heard--thank you for the script!
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    Re: Report Back from Jan 29 Meeting with Speaker Nancy Pelos

    Quote Originally Posted by jean
    Appears to be a kind of report from the National Immigrant Solidarity Network
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    http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/0 ... 359568.php

    .
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    While Rep. Pelosi supports the DREAM Acts and the immigrant labor rights,
    isn't this for illegals to get aid to go to college?

    [quote:1r7vzv39]we disagree on the guest workers program, she supports the program and we’re
    against it
    .

    I don't understand this, LA RAZA is against guest worker program, since when?

    [quote:1r7vzv39].
    - We disagrees on the border fence program, and the anti-immigrant bill,
    they told me we cannot get the perfect pro-immigrant bill to pass in the
    Congress, and we need to make “compromise” on supporting certain enforcement part [/quote
    Palosi, is for the fence, sounds like she is realizing they can't have it all!!


    [quote:1r7vzv39]
    - They told us 2007 is the best possible year to push for comprehensive
    immigration reform legislation, and we only have until August, 2007 to do this, “
    if at the we missed this year (2007), we’ll need to wait 10, even 20 years before
    next chance to push for the comprehensive immigration reform legislation
    Congress.” They told us.
    [/quote:1r7vzv39][/quote:1r7vzv39][/quote:1r7vzv39]

    Why would it take 10 to 20 years before we could get an immigration bill? wouldn't no bill at all be better than a bad bill, with them enforcing the laws?

    Does anyone have answers to these questions?




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    This is a weird post isn't it? And I thought it might cause more questions than answers.

    Yes, the Dream Act has to do with allowing illegals to attend colleges or universities.

    Now, notice the author seems to be Asian and this was a mixture of groups. Perhaps not all of these groups agreed on every issue? I would not think Asians would care about a guest worker program.

    The 10-20 yr comment is perplexing, I agree.

    That's my 2 cents!
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    SOSADFORUS wrote:

    I don't understand this, LA RAZA is against guest worker program, since when?
    LA RAZA is not interested in a guest worker program that will place individuals on a path to citizenship because such a program will take years before legalization is obtained. What they are demanding is immediate legalization for all illegals currently residing in the United States. In their view, anything less than immediate, or near immediate, amnesty is not acceptable.

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