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    Quote Originally Posted by JuniusJnr
    As usual, I find it highly alarming that no matter what the police do they are in the wrong. There are too many incidents where police are attacked, assaulted or have things launched in their direction then they are discredited for reacting. I think rubber bullets are fine. I think that those who were hit with them should be asked a whole lot more questions than the cops are asked. And I also realize more and more each day why it is so hard for cities to find law enforcement agents willing to risk their lives to protect the citizenry. Another sad day for Americans.
    May the Lord above forgive me Junius, but my regret is that rubber bullets were used instead of, {mod edit}? I wasn't around for the Kent State tragedy, but I know 4 protestors lost their lives - and I believe they were Americans. Why is our government now so bent on being soft on illegals??

    I read a statement where an ICE official stated they would never raid these rallies looking to arrest illegals. My question is - Why not??? If they're brazen enough to protest in OUR streets, why is our government not brazen enough to show up and arrest them???

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    illegal immigrant protest turns violent

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    Whats sad in all this is that yes the police said that violence broke out and that it was a few who mixed into the protesters. They threw rocks and acted uncivil then it appears that others joined in. I later turned on the news and they showed on T.V. the chaos and how the helicopter hovered overhead and asked the crowd to disperse.
    Granted they said it in English but that is the American language and anyone with common sense would have read the signs and dispersed. I know in Mexico if the police come in force the Mexicans know its not good and leave, give me a break you know a few of them understood English. Those that stayed were either ignorant or wanted something to happen. So they could say see what they did to us. I watched that one man who lifted up his t-shirt to show where he was shot by bean bags. A common tool to break up riots. Yeah it looked nasty but honestly anyone who plays paintball knows its nothing. I had worst looking welts on my 12 year old son who loves paintball. Yeah it hurts just briefly more like a bad sting for a couple of seconds then it stops and you know what in a few days its all gone. Trust me at some games you get shot more then that; and they were just kids. That was obviously shown by the media to elicit abuse and sympathy.
    Unfortunately I don't feel sorry for illegal immigrants who are breaking the law just being in our country. Never mind taking social services made for American Citizens; making us pay their medical bills, or paying for their education through property taxes; also scholarships and grants lost to our children who are Americans given to illegals. ICE or the INS should have been sent to these rallies and started asking for IDs. Probably would have found thousand of false ones. Its sad to think our own government allows law breakers to run amok and assemble as if they were US citizens. Why not open the gates to prisons too and let them assemble and protest and ask for things.
    The worst of it all is that the chief of police it out there apologizing for maybe too much force. And they will investigate any illegal actions taken by officers. Those illegal actions taken by illegal immigrants count I hope. I almost want to reach into the T.V screen and smack some sense into him.
    One thing has to be remembered they are here illegally that means they broke the law. Why where they not being checked for IDs is beyond common sense. To say the truth I think this ill guided let them all become legal amnesty thing Bush proposal is having a heavy handed trickle down effect where this guy and others in law enforcement fear that the government may come in and declare them wrong. And sent them to jail.
    As Citizens of this great country we must demand that all illegal immigrants be Identified and deported and what better place then at meeting area's demanding to be citizens. How more obvious is it.

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    Re: Riots break out in Vista, CA

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    NORTH COUNTY ---- Immigration protests turned hostile Monday in parts of Vista, where officers called in backup from all over the county and protesters threw rocks and bottles in the crowd.

    Most immigration protests and rallies throughout North County were peaceful Monday. But as night fell, the protests grew more disruptive in parts of North County.
    As time goes on, we are going to see more violence. They are being embolded by democrats and republicans saying things like, "we need them for work Americans will not do," "we cannot round them all up and deport them," people giving them sanctuary,nd business continuing to hire them, and as ICE crack down of them harder and especially when no amnesty bill will be passed, we are going to see more violent protest. It will not be peaceful as the civil right protestors. We are going to see riots much more violent than the Rodney King and the Watts riot.

    These people think they have a god given and a legal right to be here and that is dangerous thinking. The have it in their heads that they are more valuable to the economy than the Americans citizen and they are indespensable.

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    These people think they have a god given and a legal right to be here and that is dangerous thinking. The have it in their heads that they are more valuable to the economy than the Americans citizen and they are indespensable.
    Very true Dyehard, that is why it is so important that their way of thinking is shown to be flawed and they need to be escorted back to where they belong. Between their govenment saying they are heros for coming here and our governemnt welcoming them with open arms they definitely have the wrong impression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April
    dyehard39 wrote:

    These people think they have a god given and a legal right to be here and that is dangerous thinking. The have it in their heads that they are more valuable to the economy than the Americans citizen and they are indespensable.
    Very true Dyehard, that is why it is so important that their way of thinking is shown to be flawed and they need to be escorted back to where they belong. Between their govenment saying they are heros for coming here and our governemnt welcoming them with open arms they definitely have the wrong impression.
    If we need anyone to come and work we could get honest people from all over the world to fill the positions.

    Also I would say any need for workers is very debatable from what I've been seeing.

    Our biggest concern right now should be getting the criminals in and working for the government charged and replaced with honest people.

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    SOLUTION

    THE ONLY WAY TO OVERCOME VIOLENCE(Mod edit) -- AND THATS ALL THAT ILLEGALS RESPECT ANYWAY -- I HOPE THEY ROUNDED THEM ALL UP AND PUT THEM ON A BUS BACK TO THE HELL HOLE THEY CALL MEXICO

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