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    What bothers me most about the Richmond rape case is that people who watched are being considered witnesses. They are not witnesses, they are participants. A witness is someone who happens to see a crime occur. They stood there and watched and took picutures. She is 15...a child. They are all guilty of participating in her rape, even if all they did was watch.

    If you have pictures of children being raped, you are guilty of a felony. I dont see the difference if you have a video, a picture or watch in real time. They watched because they were enjoying watching. They did not get help for her, because they were enjoying watching her be raped. So why are they being classified as witnesses? Even if she were an adult, watching and enjoying seeing someone get raped is participation, not witnessing.
    As horrible as this crime is and as disgusted I am, watching and not reporting is NOT a crime unless you are a designated reporter by law: a teacher, police officer, nurse, doctor, etc. The rational is arguable, but I agree with the law.
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    I am not talking about charging them for not reporting the crime. I am talking about charge them for participating in the crime by watching it as entertainment. Just like spectators at a cockfight can be charged for participating.

    It makes no sense. If one of the onlookers who took a picture with his phone, and put it on the internet....if you access it, you have committed a crime. And I am talking about the same scene of the Richmond rape. But what you are saying is that a person can watch in person but cannot watch the exact same event via video. Because we are not talking about people just passing by and seeing the crime. We are talking about people who stayed to watch. How is there a difference when it is on video? Watching child porn via video or watching child porn in person...same thing.

    Hypothetical scenario: You happen to wander into an office where child porn is being filmed. You stay to watch and enjoy. You are not guilty of participating? C'mon. You are not just a passerby but a willing observer. And in the case of the Richmond rape, the onlookers were willing observers to child rape....[/
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    Well, let's ask Whoopi Goldberg. Maybe it wasn't "rape" rape.

    This is just more liberal crap played out by youth. Hollywood tells kids they can do anything they want and that the person that tries to stop them is a jerk. Today I hear the idiot behind Seinfeld is being scorned for urinating on a picture of Christ on his latest show on HBO. It's all about "we can do anything we want". Look at this administration, great example of changing the rules.

    Seems to me that they are the racists and haters themselves. Any woman who can look at a 13-year-old being raped by a 40-year-old after he drugs her and say it was not RAPE is just an indication of how sick this momentum has gotten. That we have groups of kids standing around filming this gang rape and we consider them witnesses and not part of the rape, is the problem. We need to get dignity and personal responsibility back into our consciousness and drill it into our kids heads that this is not acceptable, no matter what Whoopi or Hollywood leads them to believe.

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    This story makes me sick. Makes me want to vomit. Those disgusting human beings should receive the same horror and pain that inflicted on that young girl and get to re-live it everyday. I hope that they get raped in prison and someone gets it on video. And then they replay it for them everyday - for the rest of their lives. Maybe they should do re-plays in slow motion.

    And what was up with that rally? Leaders of tomorrow? hmmm... chirp, chirp....
    Who are they really trying to convince that the town is decent?? THEMSELVES more than anyone else. I am not familiar with the area but I never would have thought it was a "bad town", just would have thought something horrific happened there. They should have just shut up about how great the town is and focused on showing genuine care, concern, and support for the victim and the victim's family. That would have made a more convincing case for the community than anything else.

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