Thread: Should U.S. citizenship be automatic for U.S.-born? POLL

Birthright citizenship
Should United States citizenship be automatic for everyone born on U.S. soil?

Yes. It would be too burdensome and costly to have everyone prove their citizenship. 23%

No. We need to cut off the costly benefits to the children of parents who are in the country illegally. 73%

I don't know. 4%

Total Votes: 1032

Should United States citizenship be automatic for everyone born on U.S. soil?
Yes. It would be too burdensome and costly to have everyone prove their citizenship.
23%

No. We need to cut off the costly benefits to the children of parents who are in the country illegally.
73%

I don't know.
4%


Total Votes: 1037

Birthright citizenship
Should United States citizenship be automatic for everyone born on U.S. soil?
Yes. It would be too burdensome and costly to have everyone prove their citizenship.
23%

No. We need to cut off the costly benefits to the children of parents who are in the country illegally.
73%

I don't know.
4%

Birthright citizenship
Should United States citizenship be automatic for everyone born on U.S. soil?
Yes. It would be too burdensome and costly to have everyone prove their citizenship.
23%

No. We need to cut off the costly benefits to the children of parents who are in the country illegally.
73%

I don't know.
4%


Total Votes: 1085

Thursday, September 17, 2009

Poll: No automatic citizenship for those born in U.S.

More than 1,000 readers responded to Register online poll about whether automatic citizenship should be given to everyone born on U.S. soil.

BY CINDY CARCAMO
The Orange County Register
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Nearly three quarters of ocregister.com readers who responded to an online poll said United States citizenship should not be automatic for everyone born on U.S. soil.

About 1,050 people responded to a poll about birthright citizenship coming to the forefront as both sides of the immigration are readying themselves for the possibility of an immigration overhaul.

The question posed was "Should United States citizenship be automatic for everyone born on U.S. soil."

As of 11 a.m. Thursday -- the same day as Citizenship Day -- 73 percent of readers had clicked on "No. We need to cut off the costly benefits to the children of parents who are in the country illegally."

As of the same time, 23 percent had voted "Yes. It would be too burdensome and costly to have everyone prove their citizenship." Only 4 percent voted they didn't know how to answer.

The poll was in response to an article about several initiatives, including one in California that would impose new rules for birth certificates, essentially calling for the state to issue one type of birth certificate to children of U.S. citizens and green card holders and another to children of temporary residents and of those who are here illegally.

The attempt is aimed at cutting off automatic citizenship for children who were born on United States soil of parents who are in the country illegally.

One of the comments against birthright citizenship was from "jskdn2" who said:

"Citizenship at birth and for minor children should automatically follow the citizenship status of their parents. It's disingenuous to argue for family unity and support a system that creates legal status in contradiction to that goal."

Another commenter who supported birthright citizenship came from "airickoo" who wrote:

"…The sad thing is that the majority of these people probably wouldn't be citizens if we didn't have this law in effect because their German, Irish and Italian ancestors' kids wouldn't have become citizens automatically either. There are much better ways of deal with immigration, but changing this law would fundamentally undermine our country's ideology."

Another commenter said the California initiative would prove ineffective.

"ocsleeper" wrote:

"Sounds like Ted Hilton needs to learn about federal laws versus state laws. He needs to realize that no California initiative will change the constitution or over rule the constitution. It's just going to be a waste of time and more California tax money if this initiative takes ground. He really should be focusing on pressuring congress because they are the only ones that can do anything about the 14th and how it is written."

Supporters of the initiative say the automatic citizenship policy is bankrupting the state. In addition, they said it would save the state billions by cutting off benefits to children who did not qualify for the birth certificate offered to the children of citizens and permanent residents.

Opponents, however, say the initiative fails to address what they said are the impracticalities and costly implications to the government and taxpayers. In addition, they say the initiatives wouldn't stem the flow of people coming to the country illegally. People who come to the country illegally come for jobs and to reunite with family.

In addition, they said the "anchor baby" idea is a myth because a child born on U.S. soil can't sponsor his or her parents until he or she becomes 21. And, the process is long, and requirements are strict and challenging to overcome, they said.

Contact the writer: ccarcamo@ocregister.com or 949-553-2906

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/citi ... initiative

Should United States citizenship be automatic for everyone born on U.S. soil?
Yes. It would be too burdensome and costly to have everyone prove their citizenship.
23%

No. We need to cut off the costly benefits to the children of parents who are in the country illegally.
73%

I don't know.
4%


Total Votes: 1307

NO WAY! We need to have the 14th amendment straightened out once and for all. Illegal aliens babies are NOT citizens! It is NOT impossible to deport them and its never too late to start. I dont care how long it takes. I just want to feel the safety and comfort of knowing that all illegal aliens in our country will one day be a thing of the past. And that our immigration laws already on our books will finally be enforced.

AGAIN, These children have only their ILLEGAL parents to blame; Abuse of the 14th Amendment to create an Anchor for U.S. Citizens to furnish benefits! The Elitist Politicians and Elitist Contributors are socializing benefits to the ILLEGALS for the ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS, veiled as welfare for U. S. Citizens, on the backs of U.S. Citizens through our assets such as the Education System, Social Security, and Health Care not to mention our National Security while privatizing the profits for themselves!

The reason the ILLEGALS have the Anchors, furnishing a opportune SOB story, is to stay in the U.S. to receive the benefits, their Anchors are nothing more than throwaways for their agenda; if they were important to the parents they would take their children with them when they returned to their HOME countries . They do not want to be Citizens of the U.S. only to the extent that it would allow the ILLEGALS to remain in the U.S. for our tax money and they will return south of the border as soon as they have drained the U.S. Dry.

Stopping birthright citizenship and identifying and deporting nonworking illegals before they can give birth on U.S. soil would do more to cause them to self deport than any other measure, I believe. Most of the illegal aliens here working have their illegal alien family members with them and then anchor babies.; if their significant other is deported, they would possibly leave too.

Originally Posted by butterbean

Should United States citizenship be automatic for everyone born on U.S. soil?
Yes. It would be too burdensome and costly to have everyone prove their citizenship.
23%

No. We need to cut off the costly benefits to the children of parents who are in the country illegally.
73%

I don't know.
4%


Total Votes: 1307

NO WAY! We need to have the 14th amendment straightened out once and for all. Illegal aliens babies are NOT citizens! It is NOT impossible to deport them and its never too late to start. I dont care how long it takes. I just want to feel the safety and comfort of knowing that all illegal aliens in our country will one day be a thing of the past. And that our immigration laws already on our books will finally be enforced.

I couldn't have said it better myself Butterbean! You are right on 100%! These anchor babies are NOT citizens, and should be deported along with the parents! I am so sick and tired of paying OUTRAGEOUS taxes for these anchor babies!

Granting automatic citizenship for anyone born on US soil is a gross perversion of the 14th ammendment.

The 14th ammendment was specifically intended to grant citizenship to ex-slaves who were descendents of generations of blacks born in this country and no longer had any claim to any kind of African citizenship.

In fact, the 14th ammendment specifically mentions that birthright citizenship is only for children born here whose parents have no legal ties to any other country. This specifically EXCLUDES illegal invaders who are mexican - or other - nationals.

Birthright citizenship for the anchor babies of illegal invaders is a GROSS PERVERSION of the intent and wording of the 14th ammendment.