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    Trump Just Denied Green Cards And Freebies To Those Who Don’t Deserve It – All Hell A

    Trump Just Denied Green Cards And Freebies To Those Who Don’t Deserve It – All Hell About To Unleash

    Published November 28, 2018
    By Rory

    The Department of Homeland Security recently released a draft of the regulation to stop legal immigration of those are likely to need taxpayer assisted aid program. These include medical care, anti-poverty aid as well as pension aid. This regulation is based on a long-standing law that is already in place and could start as early as potentially next year.
    The regulation is meant to sharply decrease the cost to taxpayers of supporting the nearly 1.1 million migrants that come to American legally and are given green cards annually. Over the next few years, it can decrease the influx of unskilled labor. This is meant to potentially help nudge the employee wages for unskilled Americans.
    The regulation utilizes existing law that has already been in place for some time. Thus, various migration advocates will find difficulty when they attempt their lawsuits. It is expected that business groups will lobby Congressional members to override and get rid of the regulation.
    Breitbart reported,
    “The regulation uses existing law, so migration advocates may not be able to stop it via lawsuits unless President Donald Trump loses the 2020 election. However, business groups likely will lobby Congress to override the regulation.
    The rule likely will trim the fast-growing inflow of elderly migrants, such as the retired parents of recent immigrants. It could also block the arrival of many ailing or poor chain-migrants, such as the siblings of unskilled immigrants, but it is not likely to reduce the overall chain-migration inflow because the chain-migration waiting-line of 4 million people includes many people who are not poor, ill or unskilled.
    The proposed regulation does not cover immigrants who already have green cards or citizenship. But the regulation will cover many illegals, overstays, and visa-workers who are in the United States and hope to file an “Adjustment of Status” that would get them green cards and also allow them to import their relatives via the chain-migration rules that Congress has refused to reform.
    The agency’s statement says:
    the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced a proposed rule that will clearly define long-standing law to ensure that those seeking to enter and remain in the United States either temporarily or permanently can support themselves financially and will not be reliant on public benefits … [or] likely to become burdens on American taxpayers.
    DHS is proposing to consider current and past receipt of designated public benefits above certain thresholds as a heavily weighed negative factor. The rule would also make non-immigrants who receive or are likely to receive designated public benefits above the designated threshold generally ineligible for change of status and extension of stay.

    The public benefits proposed to be designated in this rule are federal, state, local, or tribal cash assistance for income maintenance, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Supplemental Security Income (SSI), Medicaid (with limited exceptions for Medicaid benefits paid for an “emergency medical condition,” and for certain disability services related to education), Medicare Part D Low Income Subsidy, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, or food stamps), institutionalization for long-term care at government expense, Section 8 Housing Choice Voucher Program, Section 8 Project-Based Rental Assistance, and Public Housing. The first three benefits listed above are cash benefits that are covered under current policy.
    The phrase “heavily weighed negative factor” implies that most — but not all — poor, sick and unskilled applicants will not be given residency.
    The regulation does not count taxpayer aid related to the Affordable Care Act or the Children’s Health Insurance Program, and it excludes taxpayers’ rebates under the Earned Income Tax Credit. The rule also allows would-be immigrants to receive a small amount of aid, or roughly $3,765 for a family of four, or a $1,821 for a single person. The rules only apply once the regulation is established, so it does not cover potential migrants’ current use of aid programs.
    The DHS statement and DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen noted that the regulation implements a long-ignored law excluding migrants who may impose a “public charge” on Americans:
    The term “public charge” as applied to admission of aliens to the United States has a long history in U.S. immigration law, appearing at least as far back as the Immigration Act of 1882. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries public charge was the most common ground for refusing admission at U.S. ports of entry.
    “Under long-standing federal law, those seeking to immigrate to the United States must show they can support themselves financially,” said Secretary Nielsen. “The Department takes seriously its responsibility to be transparent in its rulemaking and is welcoming public comment on the proposed rule. This proposed rule will implement a law passed by Congress intended to promote immigrant self-sufficiency and protect finite resources by ensuring that they are not likely to become burdens on American taxpayers.”
    The new policy was slammed by advocates for mass migration and imposed diversity, and it was praised by pro-American groups who support lower immigration rates.


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    The National Immigration Law Center portrayed the regulation as an insult to poor people:
    “The proposal is reckless, deeply unfair, and inconsistent with core American values. It is a massive backdoor change to decades of immigration law. It places wealth over family, denying ordinary working families a place in America. And it explicitly places a priority on well-off families and ignores families who have waited years to be reunited” said Olivia Golden, executive director of the Center for Law and Social Policy.
    Pro-migration progressives also portrayed the reform as an attack on children, including the U.S-born children of recent migrants. In April, Washington state Gov. Jay Inslee complained about the pending regulation, writing:
    The proposal is clearly intended to deny basic supports like food, health care, and housing to lawfully present immigrants and their families — including millions of children and U.S. citizens — who pay taxes, work, go to school and contribute to our country’s economy.
    But immigration reformers applauded the regulations needed to implement the existing law.
    “This is long overdue,” said Mark Krikorian, the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, told the New York Times. For years, “this country has defined public charge in a fictional way in order to facilitate high levels of low-skilled immigration. But this is simply a 21st-century definition of what public charge is.” He continued:
    This isn’t a moral issue …. A Honduran with a sixth-grade education level isn’t morally flawed, but he works three jobs and still can’t feed his family. Immigrants with low levels of skill are a mismatch for a modern society like ours.”
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    Share if you agree the Trump administration is doing the right thing.
    Share if you hope this will continue to be the law of the land.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Airbornesapper07 View Post
    Trump Just Denied Green Cards And Freebies To Those Who Don’t Deserve It – All Hell About To Unleash

    Another misleading click bait title.

    If you follow the link to where the article originated, the title is

    Trump Reform Denies Green Cards To People Who Expect Taxpayer Aid

    The article was written Sept. 22----it is a draft and could start as early as next year.
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    Good catch StopTheInvaders.

    Trump and his administration put lots of red meat sounding ideas like this out there, then publications like Right Wing News turn it into social media click bait. The masses buy it and believe it and think that Trump is actively doing all he can to stop illegal immigration when the inverse is true.
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    NO PUBLIC CHARGE....U.S. TAXPAYERS FOOT THE $133 BILLION FOR IT EVERY YEAR

    THOSE COSTS WILL QUADRUPLE IF WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS ROAD!

    OVERCROWDING, POVERTY, CRIME, DISEASES, RAPE, MURDER, GANGS, PRISONS, JAILS, LAWSUITS, THEY WILL BANKRUPT US AND WILL ALL BE LIVING UNDER A BLUE TARP!

    WE CANNOT AFFORD OUR OWN HEALTHCARE, SCHOOL, HOUSING AND BILLS!
    TO BECOME AN AMERICAN YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR VALUES ...NOT YOUR LOCATION

    STAY HOME AND BUILD AMERICA ON YOUR SOIL

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    Another misleading click bait title.

    If you follow the link to where the article originated, the title is

    Trump Reform Denies Green Cards To People Who Expect Taxpayer Aid


    The article was written Sept. 22----it is a draft and could start as early as next year.
    Thank you.
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    When my parents came here LEGALLY in 1929 and 1930...they had to be sponsered by a brother or sister,,,,have a job waiting ,,,and there was no Food Stamps or free housing or medical available....They HAD to stand on their own 2 feet!!!!
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    And if you were ill or had diseases...they sent you BACK on the boat!

    GET THEM OUT AND KEEP THEM OUT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    Good catch StopTheInvaders.

    Trump and his administration put lots of red meat sounding ideas like this out there, then publications like Right Wing News turn it into social media click bait. The masses buy it and believe it and think that Trump is actively doing all he can to stop illegal immigration when the inverse is true.
    Do we oppose this proposed new regulation and if so why? I thought we wanted to stop all these welfare handouts to immigrants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Do we oppose this proposed new regulation and if so why? I thought we wanted to stop all these welfare handouts to immigrants.
    We don't oppose this new legislation. We are just acknowledging that A. It is not legislation yet and B. Trump has a pattern of promising to do things we like and then not following through or doing the complete opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    We don't oppose this new legislation. We are just acknowledging that A. It is not legislation yet and B. Trump has a pattern of promising to do things we like and then not following through or doing the complete opposite.
    Oh, I see. Well, first of all, this isn't new legislation, it's a new executive regulation. It has to be reviewed by all the applicable agencies, there's a lot of them, make sure it's all legal, and then when it's finalized, posted on Federal Register for some period of time, I think at least 30 days, and then some implementation period after the review and comment period on Federal Register. It won't apply to those already here, what it does is prevent issuance of Green Cards to new immigrants who would otherwise have qualified for welfare, and if they come and try to sneak in on the benefits, ensure they're denied or prosecuted for fraud. It's a pretty complicated endeavor so it will take some time to implement properly. But unless there's something I'm missing, I totally support it, long-over due. Trump has been hounding about this public charge issue since the campaign. It's a way to maneuver our system into the merit-based system he supports and probably most Americans do as well. Importing poverty as we've done the past 40 years was really dumb.
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