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    Trump may empower local police to round up immigrants

    Trump may empower local police to round up immigrants

    USA TODAY 1:12 p.m. EST November 24, 2016

    MIAMI — Deputizing local police officers from around the country to enforce the nation's immigration laws is one plan being proposed to President-elect Donald Trump to fulfill his pledge to crack down on undocumented immigrants.

    The idea was on a sheet of proposals for the Department of Homeland Security that was photographed when a member of Trump's immigration transition team met with him Sunday. The list of proposals carried by Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach also addressed Trump's campaign pledge to cut off the program that accepts Syrian refugees and to enhance screening of people from countries with ties to terrorism.

    Kobach, who has helped several states draft laws that crack down on illegal immigration, did not respond to requests for comments about the proposals.
    The so-called 287(g) program on the list allows the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency to train local police officers and sheriffs deputies to locate and catch undocumented immigrants living in their communities.

    The program was created by Congress in 1996 and used by President George W. Bush. By 2010, local officers in 24 states were trained and empowered by ICE to respond to crime scenes, make traffic stops and check local jails to determine the immigration status of suspects.

    The program was largely phased out by President Obama. Local officers now only work in local jails, not on the street.
    Kobach's proposal suggests the program be ratcheted back up to "at least 70 cities and counties" when Trump enters the White House in January. Trump said in a post-election interview that a top priority will be deporting an estimated 2 million to 3 million undocumented immigrants with criminal records.

    Expanding local enforcement would be a quick, cheap "force multiplier" for a Trump administration intent on increasing deportations, said Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that favors steps to curb illegal immigration. She said federal agents are already stretched thin, and adding local officers to do immigration work would help expand their reach.

    "I would expect ICE to be inundated with applications" from local agencies interested in taking part, Vaughan said. "It's a great thing for public safety and our immigration enforcement. You're going to have fewer criminal aliens falling through the cracks and more sent home rather than being allowed to stay in those communities."

    Opponents counter that expanding local enforcement would alienate communities with significant Hispanic populations. Lake County (Ill.) Sheriff Mark Curran, a former prosecutor, said he looked into the program when it was created, but changed his mind once he thought through the downside of such a step.

    Curran said solving crimes requires witnesses to step forward and talk to police, something the Hispanic community would not do if the officers were also acting as immigration agents.

    "As soon as your police car pulls up, all the doors are going to shut," Curran said. "All they know is you dragged some relative of theirs out of the house a week ago who hadn't done anything but try to provide for his family. They're not going to want to cooperate with you."

    Curran, a Republican who voted for Trump, supports many aspects of the president-elect's plan to crack down on illegal immigration and said his office regularly cooperates with federal immigration investigations. But he was disappointed to hear that Trump is considering the 287(g) program.

    "My position is the same as most sheriffs in the country," he said. "We're not going to flip our nose at the Constitution. We're not going to become sanctuary counties. But we don't want to be federal agents running around going into homes and grabbing people based on their immigration status."

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    MIAMI — Deputizing local police officers from around the country to enforce the nation's immigration laws is one plan being proposed to President-elect Donald Trump to fulfill his pledge to crack down on undocumented immigrants.
    YES!! YES!! YES!!

    "As soon as your police car pulls up, all the doors are going to shut," Curran said. "All they know is you dragged some relative of theirs out of the house a week ago who hadn't done anything but try to provide for his family. They're not going to want to cooperate with you."
    NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!!

    That's why you should have deported the whole house of illegal aliens when you pulled up the last time. American Hispanics are NOT going to close the door on cops for enforcing US immigration law any more or less than Americans of any ethnic origin or race close the door n cops for arresting relatives. The reason the house full isn't responding to you, if that's even true, is because they're illegal aliens or Americans aiding, abetting and harboring illegal aliens in violation of US immigration law. That's why you should have reasonable suspicion to arrest the whole house full, then sort it all out down at the station, check citizenship and immigration papers. so you need to take several vans with you when you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorrie View Post

    Curran said solving crimes requires witnesses to step forward and talk to police, something the Hispanic community would not do if the officers were also acting as immigration agents.

    "As soon as your police car pulls up, all the doors are going to shut," Curran said. "All they know is you dragged some relative of theirs out of the house a week ago who hadn't done anything but try to provide for his family. They're not going to want to cooperate with you."

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    Can someone please approach this issue with some logic? If ALL illegals are deported, then you don't have to worry about them cooperating or not cooperating with law enforcement. If they're not here, it's not an issue!

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    Exactly, goldendaze! Which makes one have to ask, are they really that stupid or are they on the take with the drug cartels? I ask, you decide.
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    Beware of any and all law enforcement officials who don't want to participate in the 287 (g) program or who don't think rounding up immigration law breakers is worthy of their attention. That's all phony. They go into homes every day arresting people for one thing or another. They go into businesses and every other establishment to arrest people. Their job is to arrest lawbreakers and right now we have 30 million lawbreakers in our country who need to be removed from the country. They arrest trespassers, people "drunk in public view", people holding a beer can on a sidewalk, etc., etc., etc. so beware of any law enforcement official who doesn't want to arrest illegal aliens wherever they may be.
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