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    The U.S.-Mexico border wars demand action

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    Monday, November 21, 2005

    The U.S.-Mexico border wars demand action

    By Jerry Brewer

    Delays, lip service, or simply ignoring the potential of hostilities along our long southern border with Mexico is outlandish, unwise, and must not be tolerated. There is a clear and well-defined enemy lurking about and penetrating that border routinely. The enemy is not the usual Mexican immigrant seeking work and a better way of life. Nor is it an enemy that will be stopped by a wall or fences, or worry about a civilian militia.

    This enemy is a well-trained and skilled army of former Special Forces’ commandos and military deserters from Latin American countries. Paramilitary types who are recruited as enforcers for the drug cartels. Assassinations, kidnappings, shootouts, and related violence are their calling cards. Calling cards that are strewn metaphorically to the tune of 157 drug-related murders and 63 kidnappings in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas alone this year.

    U.S. Border Patrol agents along the southern border know the enemy well, as so far there have been 548 assaults on agents in 2005, this compared to 220 in 2003.

    Law enforcement personnel defending our southern border are out manned, and quite simply outgunned – with many of these brave men and women having stared down the barrels of AK-47 assault rifles and other sophisticated automatic weaponry. And many have watched as camouflaged paramilitary types stealthily parade past, escorting contraband across the border, hunkered down because they face such superior firepower.

    Let us be clear and realistic. Fences and walls will not stop the above, just as those with knives will not win a gunfight. A porous border plugged with walls might stop and inconvenience the migrants’ march to their perceived utopia and reunions with family members who crossed before them. However well armed paramilitary types or dogma driven terrorists will still complete the trip.

    Furthermore, these insurgents have allies north of the border. Organized crime groups in the United States that include the Mexican Mafia, the Central American-based Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, and other gangs that support them.

    Another accomplice in the United States, in this alliance of terror, is the US$30 billion drug habit. This conveniently allows the continued purchases of leading-edge weapons and hired guns, plus it permits untold bribes and payoffs. And it is money that paves the cross-border entry routes with gold.

    Walls and high fences are not obstacles to suppliers, considering the intense demand for contraband and the profits involved. This is about money and power, and it also involves weapons, human trafficking for multiple purposes, terrorist ideology, financial crime, and other forms of criminal violence.

    The lucrative overland smuggling corridors are alive and well, plus there are air and sea routes, and you can bet those involved in drug trafficking and people smuggling are constantly researching every perceived obstacle to stop them. As for a wall, the drug cartels could pay the US$8 billion construction costs from petty cash, a deception just to make us feel better.

    What they could not stop is a strategic, comprehensive, well-planned and properly executed enforcement plan.

    In addition, Mexican drug cartels and their associates are running marijuana farms, and protecting them with booby traps and assault rifles, right here in the United States. Last year the National Park Service seized marijuana at a street value of US$240 million in California where it was being grown. One might repulsively admire their tenacity however, for increased attention at the Mexican border has convinced those involved it is easier to grow marijuana in the U.S. than to smuggle it in.

    In the interests of our homeland security, now is the time for U.S. politicians to halt the partisan tug of war with the American public. Who supported war, who lied about weapons of mass destruction, who changed their minds, and who is posturing for a run for the presidency and office in the next elections, seem a little shallow. The American homeland is vulnerable and lives are at risk.

    An internal implosion doesn’t sound unrealistic, given the facts and assessing the threat. America needs to roll up its sleeves like it has throughout our proud history, and politicians need to be called on the carpet in this democracy to once again unite for the common good.

    War does not stop at the border.
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    Re: The U.S.-Mexico border wars demand action

    In the interests of our homeland security, now is the time for U.S. politicians to halt the partisan tug of war with the American public. Who supported war, who lied about weapons of mass destruction, who changed their minds, and who is posturing for a run for the presidency and office in the next elections, seem a little shallow. The American homeland is vulnerable and lives are at risk.

    An internal implosion doesn’t sound unrealistic, given the facts and assessing the threat. America needs to roll up its sleeves like it has throughout our proud history, and politicians need to be called on the carpet in this democracy to once again unite for the common good.

    War does not stop at the border.
    "and politicians need to be called on the carpet in this democracy to once again unite for the common good."



    This writer must be new to the issue of illegal immigration and our politicans being called upon to do anything in the national interest.



    "It's Globalism, Stupid". If you want to stop it, DON'T SPEND, SAVE (take their money away); PASS THE FAIR TAX (take their leverage for power away); and then Be Ready to Hit the Streets and Stand Up for Your Country and Fellow Citizens Against Them with signs that say "exile"!!

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    Re: The U.S.-Mexico border wars demand action

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian503a
    http://www.mexidata.info/id685.html

    Monday, November 21, 2005

    The U.S.-Mexico border wars demand action

    By Jerry Brewer

    Delays, lip service, or simply ignoring the potential of hostilities along our long southern border with Mexico is outlandish, unwise, and must not be tolerated. There is a clear and well-defined enemy lurking about and penetrating that border routinely. The enemy is not the usual Mexican immigrant seeking work and a better way of life. Nor is it an enemy that will be stopped by a wall or fences, or worry about a civilian militia.

    This enemy is a well-trained and skilled army of former Special Forces’ commandos and military deserters from Latin American countries. Paramilitary types who are recruited as enforcers for the drug cartels. Assassinations, kidnappings, shootouts, and related violence are their calling cards. Calling cards that are strewn metaphorically to the tune of 157 drug-related murders and 63 kidnappings in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas alone this year.

    U.S. Border Patrol agents along the southern border know the enemy well, as so far there have been 548 assaults on agents in 2005, this compared to 220 in 2003.

    Law enforcement personnel defending our southern border are out manned, and quite simply outgunned – with many of these brave men and women having stared down the barrels of AK-47 assault rifles and other sophisticated automatic weaponry. And many have watched as camouflaged paramilitary types stealthily parade past, escorting contraband across the border, hunkered down because they face such superior firepower.

    Let us be clear and realistic. Fences and walls will not stop the above, just as those with knives will not win a gunfight. A porous border plugged with walls might stop and inconvenience the migrants’ march to their perceived utopia and reunions with family members who crossed before them. However well armed paramilitary types or dogma driven terrorists will still complete the trip.

    Furthermore, these insurgents have allies north of the border. Organized crime groups in the United States that include the Mexican Mafia, the Central American-based Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, and other gangs that support them.

    Another accomplice in the United States, in this alliance of terror, is the US$30 billion drug habit. This conveniently allows the continued purchases of leading-edge weapons and hired guns, plus it permits untold bribes and payoffs. And it is money that paves the cross-border entry routes with gold.

    Walls and high fences are not obstacles to suppliers, considering the intense demand for contraband and the profits involved. This is about money and power, and it also involves weapons, human trafficking for multiple purposes, terrorist ideology, financial crime, and other forms of criminal violence.

    The lucrative overland smuggling corridors are alive and well, plus there are air and sea routes, and you can bet those involved in drug trafficking and people smuggling are constantly researching every perceived obstacle to stop them. As for a wall, the drug cartels could pay the US$8 billion construction costs from petty cash, a deception just to make us feel better.

    What they could not stop is a strategic, comprehensive, well-planned and properly executed enforcement plan.

    In addition, Mexican drug cartels and their associates are running marijuana farms, and protecting them with booby traps and assault rifles, right here in the United States. Last year the National Park Service seized marijuana at a street value of US$240 million in California where it was being grown. One might repulsively admire their tenacity however, for increased attention at the Mexican border has convinced those involved it is easier to grow marijuana in the U.S. than to smuggle it in.

    In the interests of our homeland security, now is the time for U.S. politicians to halt the partisan tug of war with the American public. Who supported war, who lied about weapons of mass destruction, who changed their minds, and who is posturing for a run for the presidency and office in the next elections, seem a little shallow. The American homeland is vulnerable and lives are at risk.

    An internal implosion doesn’t sound unrealistic, given the facts and assessing the threat. America needs to roll up its sleeves like it has throughout our proud history, and politicians need to be called on the carpet in this democracy to once again unite for the common good.

    War does not stop at the border.
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    Re: The U.S.-Mexico border wars demand action

    Quote Originally Posted by Judy
    In the interests of our homeland security, now is the time for U.S. politicians to halt the partisan tug of war with the American public. Who supported war, who lied about weapons of mass destruction, who changed their minds, and who is posturing for a run for the presidency and office in the next elections, seem a little shallow. The American homeland is vulnerable and lives are at risk.

    An internal implosion doesn’t sound unrealistic, given the facts and assessing the threat. America needs to roll up its sleeves like it has throughout our proud history, and politicians need to be called on the carpet in this democracy to once again unite for the common good.

    War does not stop at the border.
    "and politicians need to be called on the carpet in this democracy to once again unite for the common good."



    This writer must be new to the issue of illegal immigration and our politicans being called upon to do anything in the national interest.



    "It's Globalism, Stupid". If you want to stop it, DON'T SPEND, SAVE (take their money away); PASS THE FAIR TAX (take their leverage for power away); and then Be Ready to Hit the Streets and Stand Up for Your Country and Fellow Citizens Against Them with signs that say "exile"!!

    I think it is time to re-open the "Area 51 Mystery".I see more proof,everyday, that "ET`S" do exist and they are bassed in and around Washington DC.
    No "Human God Fearing American" would treat it`s own countrymen(Brothers and Sisters) like we are being treated right now.You will know one,an "Alien", when you see one,they carry a "Bible" just to misslead us.
    Thier Leader even goes to church, and, a Dark Place called "Skull and Bones" but he dosn`t carry the Bible there.
    "Area 51"? Could be.

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    jcalex--excellent post...and while I don't believe in "aliens", I don't claim to know either...but I must say, I look at these morons on the news spewing their spin and the thought crosses my mind: who are these people and where are their souls?

    AliensBeGone--pun intended!!

    Get these people out of our country and get these "whatever you want to call these freaks" in DC out of our government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy
    jcalex--excellent post...and while I don't believe in "aliens", I don't claim to know either...but I must say, I look at these morons on the news spewing their spin and the thought crosses my mind: who are these people and where are their souls?

    AliensBeGone--pun intended!!

    Get these people out of our country and get these "whatever you want to call these freaks" in DC out of our government.

    If these "Morons", as you politely call them,would spend one day at the "Smithsonian Institute/American History Museum",come back to thier desk, and do as they are doing now........we will have to "Deport" them A.S.A.P.
    NO!.. Sorry!.. If we depport them,in a week or two they will be right back in the country.We will have to jail them

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    Let us be clear and realistic. Fences and walls will not stop the above, just as those with knives will not win a gunfight. A porous border plugged with walls might stop and inconvenience the migrants’ march to their perceived utopia and reunions with family members who crossed before them. However well armed paramilitary types or dogma driven terrorists will still complete the trip.
    I disagree completely with the above. Fences and walls are a start and US military forces along the border to watch the fences and walls should be the second step, if not the first.

    Yes, way too many have already crossed. Does that mean we shouldn't bother to do anything to stop a few million more from crossing?

    A porous border plugged with walls and fences isn't even the picture. A continuous fence with only legal checkpoints open for border crossers is the picture I have in my mind. Right not we have markers and what amounts to a piece of string in many places, if that. Anyone over three feet tall can step over and anyone under three feet tall can walk under.

    Most of those illegals already in prison for murder should have been sentenced to death and awaiting sentences. Many are. Attrition will solve that problem as long as we don't let them escape and as long as the ones who have any chance to get out are taken immediately out of this country upon release.

    I know for a fact that literally hundreds of kilos of drugs are found at the legal checkpoints annually. If everyone was forced to cross at the legal checkpoints even more drugs would be taken off the market. It doesn't mean they aren't going to TRY and it doesn't mean that some won't succeed. It means that if they all use the same ports of entry, they have a better chance of being discovered.

    Did you notice that all the sabre rattling where MS-13 was going to kill cops on October 31 and cross swords with the MinuteMen in AZ and TX never took place? Are they not much like the terrorists from the Middle East in that respect? More talk than action?

    I think maybe you give these cowards who shoot at people then run back across the border to hide more credit than they deserve. Yes, they are dangerous outlaws in their unpredictability but there are a lot more law abiding citizens than there are of them and I don't think they would dare confront the US military to come through a fence.

    And they for darn sure can't drive their vehicles through a fence. Nor can those mothers who come to drop anchor babies climb it. So let's don't be so hasty to scrap the idea that a fence can do some good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuniusJnr
    Let us be clear and realistic. Fences and walls will not stop the above, just as those with knives will not win a gunfight. A porous border plugged with walls might stop and inconvenience the migrants’ march to their perceived utopia and reunions with family members who crossed before them. However well armed paramilitary types or dogma driven terrorists will still complete the trip.
    I disagree completely with the above. Fences and walls are a start and US military forces along the border to watch the fences and walls should be the second step, if not the first.

    Yes, way too many have already crossed. Does that mean we shouldn't bother to do anything to stop a few million more from crossing?

    A porous border plugged with walls and fences isn't even the picture. A continuous fence with only legal checkpoints open for border crossers is the picture I have in my mind. Right not we have markers and what amounts to a piece of string in many places, if that. Anyone over three feet tall can step over and anyone under three feet tall can walk under.

    Most of those illegals already in prison for murder should have been sentenced to death and awaiting sentences. Many are. Attrition will solve that problem as long as we don't let them escape and as long as the ones who have any chance to get out are taken immediately out of this country upon release.

    I know for a fact that literally hundreds of kilos of drugs are found at the legal checkpoints annually. If everyone was forced to cross at the legal checkpoints even more drugs would be taken off the market. It doesn't mean they aren't going to TRY and it doesn't mean that some won't succeed. It means that if they all use the same ports of entry, they have a better chance of being discovered.

    Did you notice that all the sabre rattling where MS-13 was going to kill cops on October 31 and cross swords with the MinuteMen in AZ and TX never took place? Are they not much like the terrorists from the Middle East in that respect? More talk than action?

    I think maybe you give these cowards who shoot at people then run back across the border to hide more credit than they deserve. Yes, they are dangerous outlaws in their unpredictability but there are a lot more law abiding citizens than there are of them and I don't think they would dare confront the US military to come through a fence.

    And they for darn sure can't drive their vehicles through a fence. Nor can those mothers who come to drop anchor babies climb it. So let's don't be so hasty to scrap the idea that a fence can do some good.
    All I want for Christmas is my country back and a "Santa, Coca-Cola Sign".That A.C.L.U. gang got by with another one.I guess Christmas is next?

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    Yep...I'd say Christmas is our Next Chance!!

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