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    Anger

    I speechless with fury.

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    Re: Anger

    Quote Originally Posted by dahvid
    I speechless with fury.
    I agree dahvid.

    It's so interesting to see long time members posting because of this story. The rage at every level is just astounding. The SF Chronicle has over 190 comments and even the liberals are outraged, calling for this policy to end. Many just hate Mayor Newsom.
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    Note, San Francisco is misspelled in the title of this article on the homepage:

    "San Fransisco"
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    Thank you for noticing. We will correct that little typo.

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    I just learned today that my long time friend daughter is related by marriage to Danielle Bologna. Speechless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogo
    I just learned today that my long time friend daughter is related by marriage to Danielle Bologna. Speechless.
    I feel so sorry for the unspeakable -- but thoroughly preventable -- tragedy that Mrs. Bologna suffered. I only hope that the local idiots that allowed this to happen pay a political price and this needless slaughter of three innocent Americans leads to the end of ridiculous and extremely dangerous "sanctuary" city policies.

    And it just seems that other than FOX news, talk radio and some print media, this is being ignored by the media because it doesn't fit with their flawed paradigm of "hard working immigrants doing the jobs Americans are not doing."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Populist
    Quote Originally Posted by Gogo
    I just learned today that my long time friend daughter is related by marriage to Danielle Bologna. Speechless.
    I feel so sorry for the unspeakable -- but thoroughly preventable -- tragedy that Mrs. Bologna suffered. I only hope that the local idiots that allowed this to happen pay a political price and this needless slaughter of three innocent Americans leads to the end of ridiculous and extremely dangerous "sanctuary" city policies.

    And it just seems that other than FOX news, talk radio and some print media, this is being ignored by the media because it doesn't fit with their flawed paradigm of "hard working immigrants doing the jobs Americans are not doing."
    I hope she turns her pain and sadness into to a long time crusade against these people who advocate for open borders, sanctuary cities, etc. Remember O'Reilly asked Hillary straight out, "are you going to clamp down on sanctuary cities?" NO was her answer.
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    My prayers are with this wpman. Although it will not do anything to bring back her family, I would sue the City of SF, Mayor Newsom and any complicent in not report this dirt bag to Federal officals. Maybe a 200 million dollars Wrong full death suit and criminal charges for failure to follow Federal law to report and acessory to murder wil "enlighten" the idiots of SF city goverment.

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    Mrs. Bologna and the parents of Jamiel Shaw should team up and take their grievances to Congress, TOGETHER, and give that "do nothing Congress" a double whammy of what WE THE PEOPLE are suffering while they all sit around, posturing, playing games and doing everything they can to make the illegal lifestyle of illegal aliens in our communities as comfortable and "humane" as possible, while WE THE PEOPLE pay for it in more ways than financially!

    How dare Gavin Newsom and Tony Villaraigosa both make it a point to make two of the most influential cities on the West Coast safe havens for illegal alien gangs, drug dealers and human smugglers! At a time when this country is at war, our borders continue to remain wide open and these two "mayors" take it upon themselves to attract scum from other countries with criminal mindsets to congregate in these two cities!

    Special order 40 in Los Angeles killed Jamiel Shaw and Gavin Newsom's Sanctuary City policy killed the three members of the Bologna family, a Santuary City policy in Newark, New Jersey allowed three Black teenagers to be terrorized by six illegal aliens and then murdered, execution style by an illegal alien from Peru! Special Order 40 should have been revoked on September 12th, 2001 and from that time forward it should be considered an ACT OF TREASON for ANY mayor to delare ANY city in the USA a Sanctuary City!

    ALL families of loved ones killed by drunk driving illegal aliens, raped, molested or murdered by illegal aliens need to form a coalition...an endless train of people presenting IN PERSON the death and devastation that illegal aliens who have no respect for the law and the citizens of this country have brought to them and continue to bring to others around this nation.

    The statistics don't lie...while American men and women are dying on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan even more American men, women AND children have been terrorized and murdered by illegal aliens right here on American soil! This is an atrocity and should NOT BE HAPPENING in the USA!
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    Triple murder turns focus on S.F. sanctuary policy

    By PAUL ELIAS Associated Press Writer
    Article Launched: 07/23/2008 04:57:18 PM PDT


    SAN FRANCISCO—The scene repeats itself every day on city streets: A driver gets stuck bumper-to-bumper, blocking the intersection and another car's ability to complete a left turn.
    San Francisco authorities say that was enough to prompt Edwin Ramos to unload an AK47 assault weapon on a man and his two sons, killing all three.

    The murders immediately sparked public outrage, which only intensified when authorities revealed that Ramos, 21, is an illegal immigrant who had managed to avoid deportation despite previous brushes with the law.

    The case has put San Francisco's liberal politics to the test, igniting a nationwide debate over its sanctuary law that shields undocumented immigrants from deportation and putting pressure on the district attorney to break her anti-death penalty pledge.

    On Wednesday, Ramos pleaded not guilty to three counts of murder in the deaths of Anthony Bologna, 49, and his sons, Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16.

    Bologna, a supervisor at a San Mateo grocery store and a youth sports coach, and his older son died in the intersection in the city's Excelsior district on June 22. His younger son succumbed to his injuries a couple days later.

    Shortly after that, police arrested Ramos, an El Salvador native and a reputed member of the notorious Mara Salvatrucha gang, known as MS-13. Investigators believe he was the gunman, although two other men were seen in the gray Chrysler 300M with him.

    The heinousness of the crime has put considerable pressure on San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris to seek the death penalty against Ramos. Harris, who campaigned on an anti-death penalty platform and has never pursued capital punishment during her more than four years in office, has declined to directly address how she intends to proceed.

    "This case has been charged as a special circumstance case," making it eligible for the death penalty, said Erica Derryck, a spokeswoman for Harris. "No additional announcement has been made about this aspect of the charging."

    Outside court Wednesday, Ramos' attorney, Robert Amparan said his client was not the shooter. "They have the wrong person," he said.

    Amparan declined to discuss details of the case but also denied that his client was involved in "gang activities" and said that Ramos "entered the country legally," even though federal officials contend Ramos is undocumented.

    The victims' family learned that Ramos had been arrested at least three times prior to the shooting and evaded deportation, largely as a result of San Francisco's self-imposed sanctuary status.

    The policy, adopted in 1989 by the city's elected Board of Supervisors, barred local officials from cooperating with federal authorities in their efforts to deport illegal immigrants.

    Officials in the juvenile offenders agency interpreted the law to also shield underaged felons from deportation by refusing to report their undocumented status. Mayor Gavin Newsom said he rescinded the nearly two-decade policy regarding juvenile offenders after learning about it in May.

    Bologna family members say Ramos apparently benefited from this policy for juveniles when he reportedly was convicted twice of felonies in 2003 and 2004 but never was turned over for deportation.

    "All San Francisco's sanctuary ordinance has done is bring violence and death to this once-great city," said Bologna's brother-in-law Frank Kennedy, who attended Ramos' court hearing Wednesday. "We want other sanctuary cities in the country to observe this closely and end their policies of non-cooperation."

    Kennedy is married to Anthony Bologna's sister and it was his Fairfield home where the three victims spent their last hours at a family barbecue before embarking on the fatal road trip home. He called for an investigation of the city's sanctuary policy and demanded "prosecutions for violating the law."

    Meanwhile, local authorities and federal officials were pointing fingers of blame at each other over Ramos' most recent arrest prior to the shooting.

    Ramos was arrested in the city's Tenderloin neighborhood in late March with another man after police discovered a gun used in a double homicide in the car Ramos was driving.

    The district attorney's office decided not to file charges against Ramos, and he was released on April 2 even though he was in the process of being deported after his application for legal residence was turned down, according to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, known as ICE.

    San Francisco Sheriff's Department spokesman Eileen Hirst said jail officials had faxed ICE on March 30 asking if Ramos should remain jailed. Ramos was freed after Hirst said immigration officials didn't respond.

    ICE spokesman Timothy Counts said his agency did not receive word of Ramos arrest in March. He contends that the only communication received about Ramos was an "electronic message" from the sheriff's department three hours after his release.

    The case has since garnered national attention, prompting Republican Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado and an anti-immigration group called Californians for Population Stabilization to ask the U.S. Department of Justice to take over because of San Francisco's alleged mishandling of the case.

    "Because San Francisco's political leaders have already demonstrated their willingness to act in flagrant violation of federal law, I do not believe that local judicial institutions can be trusted to fairly try the case or mete out an appropriate punishment," Trancredo said in a letter sent Tuesday to U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey.

    Diana Hull, president of the anti-immigration group, also called on about a dozen cities nationwide who have similar sanctuary policies to end those programs.

    "We need to remember always that a death-dealing policy like 'sanctuary' hides behind the false mantle of compassion," Hull said.

    Charles Miller, a Justice Department spokesman, said he was unaware of the San Francisco case or the congressman's request. Miller said it's routine for the attorney general to respond privately to requests such as Tancredo's.

    Nathan Ballard, a spokesman for San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, said city officials were wrong to shield undocumented, juvenile felons from federal immigration authorities.

    "The sanctuary program was never intended to shield felons," Ballard said. "The policy was inappropriate."

    However, Newsom "still supports the worthwhile aims of denying the federal government" assistance in deporting otherwise law-abiding undocumented residents, Ballard said.

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