Thread: THE IMMIGRATION DEBATE IN WAUKEGAN (GHEEN)

THE IMMIGRATION DEBATE IN WAUKEGAN
Protesters don't sway council
Deportation initiative funding to be sought

By Andrew L. Wang
Tribune staff reporter
Published July 17, 2007, 12:11 AM CDT

Waukegan became the latest microcosm of a nation split on immigration Monday as thousands of people descended on the far north suburb to protest a controversial program that would allow local police to initiate deportation proceedings for immigrants convicted of serious crimes.

In the end, the City Council declined by a 7-2 vote to reconsider its decision to apply for the federal program, leaving Latino activists angry, but heartened that they had gotten their message out and drawn a crowd to the suburbs.



"This is ground zero for us," said Ramon Becerra, regional head of the Labor Council for Latin American Advancement. He said the techniques his organization used in Waukegan—getting information out quickly on Spanish language radio stations, chartering buses, distributing flyers to pro-Latino businesses and threatening a boycott of others—are templates for his group and others to make their voices heard when they feel local officials aren't listening.

About 3,000 people attended the 5 p.m. rally outside City Hall, according to Lake County Sheriff Mark Curran. Chartered buses came from Chicago, Elgin, Wheeling and Cicero. On Monday morning, outraged callers flooded two Chicago-based Spanish radio shows.

But it wasn't just the Latino groups who attracted activists from elsewhere. Among the leaders of the anti-illegal immigration protesters was William Gheen of North Carolina, president of Americans for Legal Immigration. He said the debate in suburbs such as Waukegan is critical because their leaders aren't yet beholden to minority interests.

"Chicago's too far gone right now," he said. "Chicago is the next L.A."

But he said the debate isn't really about Latinos or any particular group.

"This isn't about diversity, this is about the law. . . . If you do not have existing laws enforced, then you want the downfall of the republic," Gheen said.

Not everyone engaged in the debate was from out of town. First in line to get a ticket for Monday's City Council meeting, a Waukegan resident of 22 years who is in favor of the plan, referred to as 287(g) for short, after a section of the federal Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act. She was not happy that so many outsiders were weighing in on the decision—even those who agreed with her.

"I don't see where people outside of our city have the right to come here and tell our City Council how to run our city," she said. "They don't see the local goings-on. They don't have children here, they don't see the schools, they aren't part of the community."

Earlier in the day, the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund filed for a temporary restraining order after learning that the city planned to limit attendance at the meeting. Citing public safety, city officials required tickets that were only available at a city office two miles from City Hall.

MALDEF said that location would be too "inconvenient" for some to visit because it was not located near public transportation, and filed for the order on behalf of three Waukegan plaintiffs.

Lake County Judge Mitchell Hoffman ordered city officials to distribute half of the 400 tickets at City Hall, which is accessible by public transportation.

The meeting capped off a nearly monthlong period that started inauspiciously, with no activists from either side attending a June 18 meeting when the council voted to authorize Police Chief William Biang to apply for the program.

City and police officials have said the program would allow some officers to start deportation proceedings for immigrants—legal or illegal—convicted of serious crimes such as murder, rape and drug-related felonies. Those officials have said the goal is to rid the city of criminals, not persecute immigrants who live within the law.

But opposition quickly grew, as thousands of Latinos turned out for public meetings and protests. Their leaders said the program could lead to police abuses against Latinos, and make undocumented immigrants reluctant to report crime.

Sparring rhetoric turned to dueling boycotts, as Latino activists marked businesses that disapproved of 287(g) with orange fliers and discouraged people from shopping at stores that didn't show the sign. Their counterparts encouraged the like-minded on Sunday to avoid shops that displayed the sign. The City Council announced it would reconsider the issue.

The debate continued at Monday's protest where activists, separated into pro and con by a wall of traffic barriers, carried signs and U.S. flags and chanted or yelled over bullhorns and wireless microphones outside City Hall.

A heavy police presence, including mounted and K-9 officers, made sure the two sides didn't mingle.

On the north end were about 250 people who favored the city applying for the federal immigration certification, including Gheen.

More than 2,000 protesters on the south end included Miguel Arizmendi, 47, president of Waukegan's Tonatico Social Club, named after the Mexican town from which many Waukegan immigrants hail.

Arizmendi, who said he came to Waukegan 30 years ago, said he has been pulled over by police who gave what seemed like flimsy reasons, such as a noisy muffler, and let him go as soon as they saw his immigration papers were in order.



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The meeting capped off a nearly monthlong period that started inauspiciously, with no activists from either side attending a June 18 meeting when the council voted to authorize Police Chief William Biang to apply for the program.

I beg to differ!!

On the north end were about 250 people who favored the city applying for the federal immigration certification, including Gheen.

More than 2,000 protesters on the south end included Miguel Arizmendi, 47, president of Waukegan's Tonatico Social Club, named after the Mexican town from which many Waukegan immigrants hail.

Outnumbered 10 to 1. That should give everyone an indication as to the huge numberes of illegal aliens in our country.

Arizmendi, who said he came to Waukegan 30 years ago, said he has been pulled over by police who gave what seemed like flimsy reasons, such as a noisy muffler, and let him go as soon as they saw his immigration papers were in order.

This guy has been here 30 yrs. enjoying all the perks and freedoms of the US supplied by citizens who have fought and some who have died to keep it that way and he wants to complain about being stopped.

A few years ago I was visiting a ranch in south texas,when I left the ranch I was stopped by a Border Patrol Agent,he and his dog searched my truck inside and the covered back.He was looking for illegals /drugs although he never said so.When he was finished and politely told me I could go I Thanked Him for Protecting us,he smiled and thanked me back for understanding.

So What Is Your Problem when folks are trying to maintain our laws and order ???

This reporter comletely slaughtered what I said. I NEVER said anything about "minority interests".

That makes it sound like Im talking about minorities that are black and Hispanic.

What I said was those that represent less than 10% of the public view!!!!!

W

William, I am not surprised...a Chicago reporter stated in his news report last night...with They are many sad residents in Waukegan tonight...not one mention of the majority of happy citizens....it is so very typical

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

This reporter comletely slaughtered what I said. I NEVER said anything about "minority interests".

That makes it sound like Im talking about minorities that are black and Hispanic.

What I said was those that represent less than 10% of the public view!!!!!

W

Great job William!! I'm happy to see another success and that everyone was safe and sound.

I hope that you are going to demand a correction to what was reported by the paper?

Those who choose to ignore reading it, or just dismiss it, will do so because it doesn't fit with their agenda. But, the correction will be there, on public record.

Originally Posted by redbadger

William, I* are not surprised...a Chicago reporter stated in his news report last night...with They are many sad residents in Waukegan tonight...not one mention of the majority of happy citizens....it is so very typical

I've been listening to the local radio all morning and there are a LOT of happy people here.

Great Job William, none of us are surprised a reporter can not get his story (facts) straight, it happens everyday. CONGRAULATIONS TO WAUKEGAN!!! and those of you who attended, our prayers were answered


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Ahhh, special thanks to sosadforus as well. Thanks for keeping news about Waukegan and the conference in the forefront. The organizers were worried about attendance but the walk up was incredible. They had almost 300 people. And these 300 are now walking away inspired to act themselves.