Thread: Independence Day Poem

The 4th of July!

1776, Independence Day


How many of us take time to remember and contemplate the true purpose for our celebrating this day?
Are we instilling the values and morals of
our Christian heritage in the minds and hearts of our children?
Are we letting them know that this great nation was built on godly principals and the freedom to worship God as our forefathers did......or are we just celebrating with parties, picnics and fireworks?
My friends, how are you celebrating this 4th of July?



Where Do We Stand

It is hard to understand, how many
people think today,
who just ignore what's happening
and look the other way;

This country, was founded by people
who were great,
They stood for what they knew was
right and didn't hesitate.

What happened to this legacy, does it
not still hold true
that liberty and justice is not just for
a few?

The dreams of our forefathers were built
with blood and tears
and meant to keep this country strong,
all down through the years.

There are those who've changed our constitution
for it's moral values they've despised,
So now it's been revised until it can't be
recognized!

They've added their amendments, changed
the meaning of it's words
and the voice of the people, no longer can
be heard.

What will it take to wake us up, to get
out there and fight
for the freedom that we're losing and for
what we know is right?

What will we tell our children, when they
grow up and see,
That their dreams for their future, can no
longer be?

Can we tell them that we did our best to
keep them safe and free?
Or did we just stand by and watch, while
we lost our liberty!

Will we have the guts to stand there and
look them in the eye
And admit that we did nothing as we
watched our country die!

What will we say, when before our God
we stand on judgment day?
That we stood our ground with pride or
looked the other way?

While those who burned our flag, threw His
commandments all away?
He tells us to stand in the gap and get on
our knees and pray;

If we want His blessings to remain we must not delay!
The time will surely come when it will be too late;
Let us stand up and be counted, and not give
up nor hesitate!

Let us celebrate this day in prayer for this
great nation of ours and for the return of our
religious freedom to be able to serve the
God who gives us life, love and liberty!

THATS A GREAT POEM....VERY INSPIRING. WE MUST ACT OR LOSE WHAT WE HAVE. LOSE WHAT OUR FORFATHERS FOUGHT AND DIED FOR. THEY GAVE EVERYTHING FOR US TO HAVE FREEDOM.....AND WE MUST GIVE EVERYTHING TO PRESERVE IT.

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY.

Originally Posted by redpony353

THATS A GREAT POEM....VERY INSPIRING. WE MUST ACT OR LOSE WHAT WE HAVE. LOSE WHAT OUR FORFATHERS FOUGHT AND DIED FOR. THEY GAVE EVERYTHING FOR US TO HAVE FREEDOM.....AND WE MUST GIVE EVERYTHING TO PRESERVE IT.

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY.

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!

Great Poem Doot!

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Our brains, which art in our heads,
treasured be thy name.
Thy reasoning come.
Thy best you can do be done
on earth as it is.
Give us this day new
insight to help us resolve conflicts and
ease pain.
And lead us not
into supernatural explanations;
deliver us from denial of logic.
For thine is the kingdom of reason,
and even though thy powers are limited,
and you're not always glorious
you are the best evolutionary adaptation
we have for helping this earth now and
forever and ever.
So be it.

Originally Posted by arizona85032

Our brains, which art in our heads,
treasured be thy name.
Thy reasoning come.
Thy best you can do be done
on earth as it is.
Give us this day new
insight to help us resolve conflicts and
ease pain.
And lead us not
into supernatural explanations;
deliver us from denial of logic.
For thine is the kingdom of reason,
and even though thy powers are limited,
and you're not always glorious
you are the best evolutionary adaptation
we have for helping this earth now and
forever and ever.
So be it.

Originally Posted by arizona85032

Our brains, which art in our heads,
treasured be thy name.
Thy reasoning come.
Thy best you can do be done
on earth as it is.
Give us this day new
insight to help us resolve conflicts and
ease pain.
And lead us not
into supernatural explanations;
deliver us from denial of logic.
For thine is the kingdom of reason,
and even though thy powers are limited,
and you're not always glorious
you are the best evolutionary adaptation
we have for helping this earth now and
forever and ever.
So be it.

Your entitled to your beliefs "arizona85032" just as I am mine.

You'll find that historically (and I'm not talking about the inaccurate revisionist history of today) our country was founded on Godly principles. We've strayed from those Godly principles. Thus, our nation as it is today is without morals, loyality and decency. This was not the intent of our founding fathers.


The fool has said in his heart,
“There is no God.â€

Originally Posted by PatrioticSandra

Originally Posted by arizona85032

Our brains, which art in our heads,
treasured be thy name.
Thy reasoning come.
Thy best you can do be done
on earth as it is.
Give us this day new
insight to help us resolve conflicts and
ease pain.
And lead us not
into supernatural explanations;
deliver us from denial of logic.
For thine is the kingdom of reason,
and even though thy powers are limited,
and you're not always glorious
you are the best evolutionary adaptation
we have for helping this earth now and
forever and ever.
So be it.

My sentiments exactly...about the original post.

Originally Posted by Doots

Originally Posted by arizona85032

Our brains, which art in our heads,
treasured be thy name.
Thy reasoning come.
Thy best you can do be done
on earth as it is.
Give us this day new
insight to help us resolve conflicts and
ease pain.
And lead us not
into supernatural explanations;
deliver us from denial of logic.
For thine is the kingdom of reason,
and even though thy powers are limited,
and you're not always glorious
you are the best evolutionary adaptation
we have for helping this earth now and
forever and ever.
So be it.

Your entitled to your beliefs "arizona85032" just as I am mine.

You'll find that historically (and I'm not talking about the inaccurate revisionist history of today) our country was founded on Godly principles. We've strayed from those Godly principles. Thus, our nation as it is today is without morals, loyality and decency. This was not the intent of our founding fathers.


The fool has said in his heart,
“There is no God.â€

"All the biblical miracles will at last disappear with the progress of science." - Matthew Arnold[/quote]


Well they haven't proven God to not be real and they are proving more and more of the Bible true.

Believe me , I know how many non believers are in this world , why do you think it just keeps getting worse and worse.

Just something to share with you

A science professor begins his school year with a lecture to the students, "Let me explain the problem science has with religion." The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.

"You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"

"Yes sir," the student says.

"So you believe in God?"

"Absolutely."

"Is God good?"

"Sure! God's good."

"Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?"

"Yes."

"Are you good or evil?"

"The Bible says I'm evil."

The professor grins knowingly. "Aha! The Bible!" He considers for a moment. "Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?"

"Yes sir, I would."

"So you're good...!"

"I wouldn't say that."

"But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't."

The student does not answer, so the professor continues. "He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?"

The student remains silent.

"No, you can't, can you?" the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.

"Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?"

"Er...yes," the student says.

"Is Satan good?"

The student doesn't hesitate on this one. "No."

"Then where does Satan come from?"

The student falters. "From God"

"That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?"

"Yes, sir."

"Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?"

"Yes."

"So who created evil?" The professor continued, "If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil."

Again, the student has no answer. "Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?"

The student squirms on his feet. "Yes."

"So who created them?"

The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. "Who created them?" There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. "Tell me," he continues onto another student. "Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?"

The student's voice betrays him and cracks. "Yes, professor, I do."

The old man stops pacing. "Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?"

"No sir. I've never seen Him."

"Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?"

"No, sir, I have not."

"Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?"

"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."

"Yet you still believe in him?"

"Yes."

"According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?"

"Nothing," the student replies. "I only have my faith."

"Yes, faith," the professor repeats. "And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith."

The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. "Professor, is there such thing as heat?"

"Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat."

"And is there such a thing as cold?"

"Yes, son, there's cold too."

"No sir, there isn't."

The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. "You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees."

"Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."

Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.

"What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?"

"Yes," the professor replies without hesitation. "What is night if it isn't darkness?"

"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word."

"In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?"

The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. "So what point are you making, young man?"

"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed."

The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. "Flawed? Can you explain how?"

"You are working on the premise of duality," the student explains. "You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought."

"It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it."

"Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"

"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do."

"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"

The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

"Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?"

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.

"To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean."

The student looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?" The class breaks out into laughter.

"Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir."

"So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?"

Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.

Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. "I guess you'll have to take them on faith."

"Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life," the student continues. "Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?"

Now uncertain, the professor responds, "Of course, there is. We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

The professor sat down.

This students statements are true, can you or can you not make night darker?

Is it possible for it to get colder after absolute zero -458 degree's F.

Can you feel,taste,see,hear,or smell your brain,

If you support this students statements than repost.

God in heaven won't mind if you do or don't.

No you won't go to hell.

your conscience may or may not feel great if you do

It's simply a personal decision that is the free will unto which GOD has given you