Thread: MUST SEE VIDEO - CLASH AT THE BORDER

Yeah. Absolutely. Cement the surface of these walls smooth and add razor wire on top. High voltage electricity would be a nice touch too.

Thanks for posting ladyofshallot; have sent this on to all of my contact list!

The fence did look whimpy. They need a tall cement structure with barbed wire all over the top.

Those rock-proof suv's were impressive. I hope that helps keep the border agents safe.

These people are nothing but animals. WHY ARENT OUR REPS KEEPING US SAFE against these barbarians?

I am OUTRAGED--the Mexican government needs to be informed to start controlling their citizens that this will no longer be tolerated. Bear in mind, the Mexican government filed an OFFICAL complaint when border agents responded to Mexican attacks with tear gas canisters.

Some of you may have missed jean's post about the Mexican Border Patrol. This is absolutely unbelievable!

jean posted:

Their mission: Turn back migrants, save lives
No guns, no radios: This is Mexico's border patrol
Sean Holstege
The Arizona Republic
Feb. 29, 2008 12:00 AM

SAN LUIS RIO COLORADO, Sonora - Mexico's unarmed border patrol faces a daunting challenge: Arrest often-dangerous smugglers and persuade people, who have invested their life's savings to cross the border illegally, to head back home.

The border agents patrol without weapons or radios in parts of the Altar Desert so remote that their cellphones don't work. Here, drug smugglers roam freely with military-style automatic rifles and satellite phones.

Called Grupos Beta, the agents are parts federal police, medic and social worker. They exist to deter hundreds of thousands of compatriots from dangerous border crossings and to rescue them when the harsh landscape and climate prove too much. Agents also arrest the coyotes who guide immigrants into the United States, violating laws of both countries. advertisement


Yet questions linger about the role and effectiveness of the Betas, who were disarmed in 2000 because of abuse allegations. Grupos Beta has fans and foes on both sides of the border.



Detractors portray the Betas as a Band-Aid against illegal immigration at best and at worst as adding to the problem. Supporters, including U.S. Border Patrol agents, point to the nearly 5,700 rescues by Betas last year along the U.S.-Mexican frontier. Human-rights groups say the Betas have overcome their image as armed thugs preying on immigrants to become respected as an elite corps of lifesavers.

"They have the power of persuasion, which is power. And they have access to the migrants, which is also a power," said Robin Hoover, who runs the Tucson-based Humane Borders, which is dedicated to saving lives in the desert.

Five agents patrol about 90 miles of border across from Arizona's Yuma County. When they encounter would-be immigrants, they hand them cartoon-style guidebooks that give advice on how to survive in the desert - assuming the people don't turn back after hearing tales of rape and seeing photos of corpses. Beta agents hand out water, food and clothing for those who continue north.

The pamphlets and tactics have enraged immigration-control groups in the United States, who accuse the Mexican government of encouraging illegal border crossings. But there is little else the Beta agents can do: It's not illegal in Mexico to cross the border, just as it is not illegal for U.S. citizens to cross into Mexico, so they cannot arrest crossers.
Jorge Alberto Vasquez Oropeza, who leads the Beta office in San Luis Rio Colorado, is proud his team arrested 36 coyote suspects last year. It was none the year before. Coyotes can get 12 years in Mexican prison, but, Vasquez says, migrants almost never testify and judges regularly let the coyotes go.


Lonely patrols


A recent patrol began at 7:30 a.m. with a strong scent of diesel smoke as Commandante Vasquez roared his trademark orange Beta truck to life. He headed east along Mexico Highway 2, which runs parallel to and 100 yards from the new border fence. A cold wind blew sand across the two-lane artery connecting Baja California to the rest of Mexico.

The road between San Luis Rio Colorado and Los Vidrios is dominated by four features that typify today's Mexican frontier:


• Wide-open desert. For years, this openness has made Arizona the most popular entry point for illegal immigrants, but the rough terrain often turns deadly.


• A military checkpoint. Just east of San Luis Rio Colorado, two dozen Mexican army troops, shouldering vintage wood-stock rifles, stop vehicles in search of narcotics. President Felipe Calderón has deployed thousands of troops to fight Mexico's war on drugs.


• Abandoned ranch houses. Dozens dot Highway 2. All lack windows, roofs and doors. They've become staging areas for bands of border-crossers.


• A 15-foot, metal-mesh border fence. The barrier dominates the landscape. It has choked off human smuggling near Yuma.


Evidence of crossers


About 15 miles east of town, Vasquez pulled off the road into Cafe Cesar to take a second look at a van. The woman driver glanced away. Lashed to her roof were two extension ladders, a more common sight near the fence these days.

He drove away without confronting the woman because planning to cross isn't a crime.

Vasquez and his team bounced off-road along the fence for three hours, stopping at known hot spots. One was the abandoned La Paloma restaurant, now a compound of cinder-block skeletons, where the mesh fence is temporarily interrupted by rocky hills.

The compound was empty, but rusty tin cans at the foot of one hill and an ice pick at the top signaled that spotters were there.

Farther east, at another hillside break in the fence, Beta agents found a pile of clothes, including black military boots.

"Narcotraficantes," said Beta Agent Ricardo Ramirez Piñal, noting that the dark clothes and small size of the group indicate drug smugglers. Footprints led around the fence, into Arizona.

www.azcentral.com

LINK TO ARTICLE:

http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-105938-0.html

Hi LadyofShallot,

Originally Posted by ladyofshallot

Great Nightline Story On the Increased Violence at the Border


http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4363641

Guess who's side our 3 open borders presidential candidates* are on?
Hint: Not the Border Patrol.

Need proof? Find out who's side the Trilateral Commissioners are on, and there's your answer.

Need more proof?

The Bilderbergs supports illegals, drug trafficers, MS-13
The Council on Foreign Relations supports illegals, drug trafficers, MS-13
The Illuminati supports illegals, drug trafficers, MS-13

*puppets of the shadow government.

Here are two links to a clip uploaded to both YouTube and Google video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KumWp3l5eCw

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2344&hl=en

Building the fence will send the right message to illegal aliens that they are no longer going to be welcomed or tolerated. And to think how Mexican elites and their surrogates say it sends the wrong message is laughable.

Originally Posted by ShockedinCalifornia

Yeah. Absolutely. Cement the surface of these walls smooth and add razor wire on top.

Absolutely, that is the kind of fence every Mexican with any kind of money has around their house.

"I am OUTRAGED--the Mexican government needs to be informed to start controlling their citizens that this will no longer be tolerated. Bear in mind, the Mexican government filed an OFFICAL complaint when border agents responded to Mexican attacks with tear gas canisters."

In Mexico, the police respond with violence including deadly force in almost any situation. We do not. If I were Calderone or one of those other Mexipols, I would want to let the angry people keep attacking American Border Patrols instead of turning around and fighting the Mexican army and police.

No one who is not a citizen has a right to demand anything from us.

And please keep several facts in mind.

#1. When the American people first tried to tell our elected officials that bad people were entering the U.S. they didn't want to listen.

#2. When the Minuteman Project began, they were called negative names by our president while he stood next to Vicente Fox.

#3. Lindsey Graham called us the "loud ones".

#4. Obama wants to do away with the fence.

Just think about it. Think about how many MORE of these types of people would be in our country if it had not been for US, throwing political correctness in the TRASH CAN where it belongs and speaking up with the TRUTH.