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    Sigh. No. It's pathetic how you can't get anything right.

    I gave my mother's situation as an example to Beezer of someone who would not have their own photo ID, because a driver's license expired, they don't drive any more, and it would be a big hassle to go get a state photo ID.

    You called if a "scenario", referred to my mother as a "crippled little old lady in a wheelchair", and laughed joyously at her situation. jtdc called her situation "spin".

    In another response to Beezer about voter suppression, I made the point that photo voter ID will impact Republican turn-out and you were incensed that I would suggest that Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot suppressing their own voter turn-out with voter photo ID.

    I never ever suggested that there be some special exemption or exception for seniors, I never even suggested that there be some special exemption or exception for the disabled of any voting age.

    Most voters have a photo ID, so it's not a problem for them. However, it is both a hassle and voter suppression for any citizen registered voter who doesn't have for whatever reason, an unexpired photo ID to present on election day in order to vote which your post on Texas giving seniors a free pass on 6 year renewals fully acknowledges, because Texas Republicans don't want to lose the turn out of senior citizens who don't want to be hassled about a photo ID when they may no longer be driving for some reason.

    The reason we have these conversations is because of illegal immigration. We all know or at least believe that illegal aliens are using state issued drivers licenses to register to vote. The states say no that they mark that license and illegal aliens are not being registered. We don't believe that's true and somehow they're slipping through the system, being registered and and voting in US elections. That is the issue, not citizen voters. What voter photo ID seems to me to actually do is deprives citizen voters without photo ID the ability to vote on election day while illegal aliens with drivers licenses sail through the polling booths.

    Citizen voters who don't have their photo IDs for whatever reason on election day are not the problem. The problem is 30 million illegal aliens operating in the United States. Voter photo ID isn't going to solve that problem. At least I don't see it. They'll be here with or without drivers licenses, voter registration, E-Verify or any other desk solution people want to put their hopes on, because they'll be here until we physically and forcibly remove them from our soil and shut down the foreign drug cartels that are behind illegal immigration into the United States.

    The real question facing Americans is whether or not we have the guts and resolve to do that. Illegal aliens, drug cartels and the open borders lobby are betting we don't. 15 years ago I would have bet everything that we do. Today, 15 years later, I still hope we do.
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