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MW wrote:

The voter ID has to be renewed every six years unless you're 70 years old or older (those card have no expiration date).

Oh gee, I wonder why they did that?

Originally Posted by Judy

MW wrote:

The voter ID has to be renewed every six years unless you're 70 years old or older (those card have no expiration date).

Oh gee, I wonder why they did that?

So folks like your crippled 81 year old mother will only have to make one trip to DPS for a voter ID. Everything after age 70 is gravy.

I support free ID for voting only. Extremely vetted!

I do not support DMV automatically registering people to vote. Too much fraud by the State and it's employees!

Originally Posted by Beezer

I support free ID for voting only. Extremely vetted!

I do not support DMV automatically registering people to vote. Too much fraud by the State and it's employees!

Thank you, Beezer!
That's all I want to!

I proudly served my country both Active Duty and Reserves.

I worked 14 days in a row EVERY MONTH with no day off for 8 years to work full time and serve...now THAT was a hassle.

I will proudly buy my own Voter ID Card with Photo...fingerprint too if that what it takes to secure our votes

$12 bucks or whatever nominal fee it is...is not going to be the end of the World and these ID's are valid for 8-10 years.

We are the luckiest people on Earth to live here and to complain about buying a Voter ID card and what a hassle it is to get one is really sad and a disgrace to me.

I think of all who served, lost their lives, the time and commitment, the sacrifice, to fight for and protect this country who made us what we are today is such a selfish thing to say that it is a hassle to get an ID. Not to mention the service members families and the hassles they endure every day.

I think of the "hassle" our service members go through every day and then compare that to a "hassle" of getting an ID is such a drag is unbelievable. To be in defiance of having to pay for an ID card and we owe them free is quite disheartening.

I do support a free ID for Voting to give in to the selfish crybabies...but I will gladly pay for mine.

What a shame what this country has come to.

Life is a hassle...but one hassle worth going through is to go get an ID and vote.



PASS THE NATIONAL VOTER ID LAW...NO AUTOMATIC REGISTRATION AT MOTOR VEHICLES.

THESE VOTER ROLLS NEED TO BE CLEANED UP

ALL WHO REGISTER NEED TO BE CHECKED THEY ARE INDEED U.S. CITIZENS AND INDEED ALIVE TO VOTE

Originally Posted by MW

So folks like your crippled 81 year old mother will only have to make one trip to DPS for a voter ID. Everything after age 70 is gravy.

It isn't based on disability or "crippled", it's based on age. Strange! There's nothing about being 70 that should exempt you from the law. Our President is 71, we've got many US Senators older than that. Over half of the US Supreme Court is over 70 (way over).

Originally Posted by Judy

It isn't based on disability or "crippled", it's based on age.

I guess they felt you would expire before the ID would expire!

Originally Posted by Judy

Strange! There's nothing about being 70 that should exempt you from the law. Our President is 71, we've got many US Senators older than that. Over half of the US Supreme Court is over 70 (way over).

And if the go through airport security, in their wheelchair, they are not exempt from a shakedown!

Originally Posted by Judy

It isn't based on disability or "crippled", it's based on age. Strange! There's nothing about being 70 that should exempt you from the law. Our President is 71, we've got many US Senators older than that. Over half of the US Supreme Court is over 70 (way over).

Geez, are you seriously asking this question? They probably did it so as not to inconvenience the elderly anymore than they felt necessary. Isn't the law being a hassle for the elderly one of the things you were complaining about earlier?

It's not an exemption from the law, it's an exception to the law. They still have to produce their photo ID when voting.

Sigh. No. It's pathetic how you can't get anything right.

I gave my mother's situation as an example to Beezer of someone who would not have their own photo ID, because a driver's license expired, they don't drive any more, and it would be a big hassle to go get a state photo ID.

You called if a "scenario", referred to my mother as a "crippled little old lady in a wheelchair", and laughed joyously at her situation. jtdc called her situation "spin".

In another response to Beezer about voter suppression, I made the point that photo voter ID will impact Republican turn-out and you were incensed that I would suggest that Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot suppressing their own voter turn-out with voter photo ID.

I never ever suggested that there be some special exemption or exception for seniors, I never even suggested that there be some special exemption or exception for the disabled of any voting age.

Most voters have a photo ID, so it's not a problem for them. However, it is both a hassle and voter suppression for any citizen registered voter who doesn't have for whatever reason, an unexpired photo ID to present on election day in order to vote which your post on Texas giving seniors a free pass on 6 year renewals fully acknowledges, because Texas Republicans don't want to lose the turn out of senior citizens who don't want to be hassled about a photo ID when they may no longer be driving for some reason.

The reason we have these conversations is because of illegal immigration. We all know or at least believe that illegal aliens are using state issued drivers licenses to register to vote. The states say no that they mark that license and illegal aliens are not being registered. We don't believe that's true and somehow they're slipping through the system, being registered and and voting in US elections. That is the issue, not citizen voters. What voter photo ID seems to me to actually do is deprives citizen voters without photo ID the ability to vote on election day while illegal aliens with drivers licenses sail through the polling booths.

Citizen voters who don't have their photo IDs for whatever reason on election day are not the problem. The problem is 30 million illegal aliens operating in the United States. Voter photo ID isn't going to solve that problem. At least I don't see it. They'll be here with or without drivers licenses, voter registration, E-Verify or any other desk solution people want to put their hopes on, because they'll be here until we physically and forcibly remove them from our soil and shut down the foreign drug cartels that are behind illegal immigration into the United States.

The real question facing Americans is whether or not we have the guts and resolve to do that. Illegal aliens, drug cartels and the open borders lobby are betting we don't. 15 years ago I would have bet everything that we do. Today, 15 years later, I still hope we do.

Originally Posted by Judy

I gave my mother's situation as an example to Beezer of someone who would not have their own photo ID, because a driver's license expired, they don't drive any more, and it would be a big hassle to go get a state photo ID.

You volunteered the example. And if they can get to the polling place to vote, they can certainly get to the DMV to get photo ID. And, that isn't necessary if they vote by mail. So you "spin" it by only allowing one situation.

Originally Posted by Judy

You called if a "scenario", referred to my mother as a "crippled little old lady in a wheelchair", and laughed at her. jtdc called it "spin".

He laughed at your scenario, and it was spin.

Originally Posted by Judy

In another response to Beezer about voter suppression, I made the point that photo voter ID will impact Republican turn-out and you were incensed that I would suggest that Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot suppressing their own voter turn-out with voter photo ID.

Then why are Democrats the ones up in arms about requiring voter ID? It is because they know that without illegal voting, it will affect them negatively! Open your eyes!

Originally Posted by Judy

Most voters have a photo ID, so it's not a problem for them. However, it is both a hassle and voter suppression for any citizen registered voter who doesn't have for whatever reason, an unexpired photo ID to present on election day in order to vote which your post on Texas giving seniors a free pass on 6 year renewals fully acknowledges, because Texas Republicans don't want to lose the turn out of senior citizens who don't want to be hassled about a photo ID when they may no longer be driving for some reason.

It's a "hassle" to have your mailbox cluttered with all those solicitations. There are all sorts of hassles. But if getting photo ID is such a hassle, voting must be a whole lot bigger hassle.

Originally Posted by Judy

The reason we have these conversations is because of illegal immigration. We all know or at least believe that illegal aliens are using state issued drivers licenses to register to vote. The states say no that they mark that license and illegal aliens are not being registered. We don't believe that's true and somehow they're slipping through the system, being registered and and voting in US elections. That is the issue, not citizen voters.

And one of the solutions is to make sure those voting are who they say they are and that they are legal U.S. citizens. The "honor system" doesn't cut it.

Originally Posted by Judy

What voter photo ID seems to me to do is deprives citizen voters without photo ID the ability to vote on election day while illegal aliens with drivers licenses sail through the polling booths.

Why is that? Because the illegal aliens went through the "hassle" to get the driver's license.

Originally Posted by Judy

The problem is 30 million illegal aliens operating in the United States. Voter photo ID isn't going to solve that problem. At least I don't see it.

Vision problems?

Originally Posted by Judy

They'll be here with or without drivers licenses, voter registration, E-Verify or any other desk solution people want to put their hopes on, because they'll be here until we physically and forcibly remove them from our soil and shut down the foreign drug cartels that are behind illegal immigration into the United States.

BUT THEY CAN'T VOTE! A bogus argument!