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    U.S. appeals court allows Texas to implement voter ID law
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    AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court on Friday allowed Texas to implement a law requiring photo identification at the ballot box, reversing a lower court decision that blocked the measure on the grounds it could be discriminatory against racial minorities.

    In a 2-1 decision, a panel from the New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the law, which was designed as a fix for previous voter ID legislation struck down for being discriminatory.

    The panel said the new legislation enacted last year had “improvements for disadvantaged minority voters,” the latest chapter in a seven-year dispute over voter ID at the ballot box in Texas, the most-populous Republican-controlled state.

    The move comes as several Republican-controlled states have pushed voter ID laws they say will prevent fraud at the ballot box. Democrats contend fraud is exceedingly rare and the real intention is to disenfranchise racial minorities, who typically support Democrats and are also less likely to have the required identification.

    Republican Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton praised the decision.

    “Safeguarding the integrity of our elections is essential to preserving our democracy,” he said in a statement.

    Kristen Clarke, president of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, which fought against the measure, said: “No law should be allowed to stand that is merely built on the back of a plainly discriminatory law.”

    The state’s original law in 2011 was considered one of the nation’s strictest such measures and its opponents said could have excluded up to 600,000 voters.

    After years of court losses, Republican Governor Greg Abbott in June signed the new measure, which relaxed some photo identification requirements.

    The 5th Circuit judges said the district court in August made a mistake when it halted the law, seeing it as being tainted by the earlier measure struck down by the courts.

    The 5th Circuit panel said the new law fixed the flaws of the previous legislation.

    Both laws listed authorized photo IDs needed for voting, including a driver’s license, U.S. military ID, a U.S. passport and a Texas concealed handgun license.

    The new law allows people who cannot produce an authorized photo ID to show other documentation, such as a utility bill, and sign an affidavit stating they had a reasonable impediment in presenting an authorized photo ID.

    Critics contend the new law could be used to intimidate voters, who could face several years in prison if they are found to have lied in affidavits.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1HY31U
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    Judy wrote (excerpt):

    A federal district judge found Wisconsin’s ID law too restrictive. The full 5th U.S. Circuit appeals court found that Texas’s voter ID law violated the Voting Rights Act by making it more difficult for minorities to vote and opened the door for putting the state under federal supervision again.
    Not sure why you put the above statement in bold because both Wisconsin and Texas currently have photo voter ID laws. Both states also offer free photo voter ID cards.

    The following just happened in Texas 3 weeks ago.

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    A federal appeals court upheld Texas’ voter identification law on Friday, saying that it does not discriminate against black and Hispanic voters.

    The decision by a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, in New Orleans, overturned a lower-court ruling that had struck down the law. It was the latest milestone in a yearslong legal battle over the state’s efforts to require voters to show government-issued identification in order to cast a ballot.

    The panel’s decision, by a vote of 2 to 1, was the first time a federal court had upheld the law, a revamped version of one of the toughest voter ID restrictions in the country.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/us/texas-voter-id.html

    Here's proof of Wisconsin's photo voter ID law:

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    Then in August 2016 an appeals court ruled that the law could be implemented as long as the state keeps its pledge to provide temporary free IDs to those in need, and to publicize the law. Until the state says otherwise, NCSL will leave Wisconsin in the "strict photo voter ID" category.
    http://www.ncsl.org/research/electio...er-id.aspx#ftn 6





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    I posted the Texas article about their long fight, and the many changes they made to their law to pass legal muster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    If they can get to the polling booth, it's because they want to do so and if they do all that it takes to get there, they should be able to vote.
    If they can get to our border, it's because they want to do so and if they do all that it takes to get there, they should be able to stay.

    In Judy's World, the law means nothing. Your desire is all that is needed. So while she says she wants illegal aliens to be deported, she really wants them to stay and be granted citizenship, because they went to all that trouble to get here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I volunteered my Mom's example to Beezer, not to you, not to MW, but to Beezer to answer her question to me about "who doesn't have a photo ID?"
    YOU DID IT ON A PUBLIC FORUM!

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    Illegal aliens can vote by mail.

    Illegal aliens can vote by absentee ballot.

    Illegal aliens have photo ID.
    THEN WHY CAN'T AN 80 YEAR OLD PERSON?

    Registering takes more than a pretty picture. If you are not registered, you can't vote. The Registrar Of Voters is supposed to verify citizenship. But liberals don't want them to have access to that information.



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    If illegal aliens are registered to vote, they will have voter photo ID and vote on election day or vote my mail or absentee ballot, and you haven't stopped a thing except denied citizen voters without a photo ID from voting on election day.
    They can't legally register to vote. They can, however, pretend to be somebody else who can register. Without photo ID a registrar can't tell them from an 80 year old voter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Why would I do that? She votes absentee ballot since her stroke.
    "Oh what a tangled web we weave..."

    If she votes by absentee ballot she needs no photo ID. So you have been using a false scenario to push your agenda.

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    I think you're the one who doesn't support your state laws. You're mad about legal weed laws, voted on by the people, not the legislature, the people, in one of California's largest turn out votes in history. Weed won 57-43%. Not even close!!! You're also mad about your voting laws and want to change them like a few other states have done to restrict African-American voting. That's so wrong!! But consistent with opposing the weed law, which will free all those black Americans who were targeted and arrested for marijuana violations in the War on Drugs. There's a pattern emerging here and it's not pretty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Oh okay, I knew you'd be on top of that one.
    So you were trying to get away with presenting false evidence as your truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    "Oh what a tangled web we weave..."

    If she votes by absentee ballot she needs no photo ID. So you have been using a false scenario to push your agenda.
    What was false about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    So you were trying to get away with presenting false evidence as your truth?
    What was false about it?
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