Thread: Chavez snubs US

Excellent post Newmexican.

Neese Wrote:

He has been in office since 1998 and is only making a difference by 2004? What has he been waiting for? Re-election? Wise up, sister, you're smarter than that.

Neese ... if you hate Hugo Chavez ... was there some other candidate you liked better?

If you hate the programs that Hugo Chavez has implemented ... was there some other program of some other administration you liked better?

The conditions in Venezuela were there when he was elected in 1998. Did you like the former Presidents of Venezuela better and if so, why?

It's a curious thing ... this attitude towards Venezuela.

You know what I think it might be neese?

I think it's his tax increases that have charged our companies more taxes. I read somewhere that he'd increased them something like 50% ... and as his country's largest trading partner in both exports and imports we play a substantial role in the economy of Venezuela and the conditions there, do we not? Raising taxes on our companies down there might upset some of our people would it not?

I mean there's more to this attitude, neese, than a President trying to ensure that his people have food to eat, doctors, financial aid and free education to the universities especially when Americans have even more extensive programs of similar type.

Oil revenues are the largest source of income for the government of Venezuela. Tax revenues are the second.

It's going to be interesting to see how Venezuela develops over the next 6 years.

And I hope our foreign policy over the next 6 years includes developing closer and better ties with Venezuela than has been the case during the past 6 years.

http://www.easybourse.com/Website/dynam ... Rubrique=2

Aaaah and lookey here. He's still at it. Raising taxes now on oil.

Is that it neese? Is that the problem?



Venezuela To Raise Tax On Orinoco Oil Projects To 50%
Monday August 21st, 2006 / 23h42

CARACAS -(Dow Jones)- Venezuela President Hugo Chavez's top ministers Monday approved an income tax reform that would raise taxes on oil activities and eliminate a number of tax breaks.

The new oil chapter of the pending income tax reform would increase taxes on oil activities to 50% from 34% on oil deals, including four Orinoco river belt crude projects, according to lawmakers and a copy of the reform proposal.

Members of Venezuela's National Assembly are expected to issue a final stamp of approval soon.

"We will meet tomorrow (Tuesday) to give a first approval to the law change and a final approval next week," said Ricardo Sanguino, vice president of the congressional finance commission.

Once congress and Chavez approve the law adjustments, he added, they will become effective in January.

Changes to the law also include getting rid of a combined set of tax breaks that companies received for additional investments during a fiscal year.

Under the new law, companies would no longer benefit from a set of three tax exemptions that together added up to 22% of new investments, according to the reform proposal.

Companies involved in developing natural gas projects or in oil refining will continue to pay the old 34% income tax, according to the plan.
Oil ministry officials worked with Seniat tax agency officials to draw the new law adjustments long anticipated by the oil industry.

In recent years Chavez raised taxes and royalties on oil companies operating in the Andean nation. (Oooh, I bet that made some people mad, huh?")

His administration has vowed to remake the oil industry to follow his nationalist agenda. (Oooh, I bet that worries the poopy do out our Globalists now wouldn't it?)

The president has long complained that foreign companies had too much say in shaping Venezuela's oil industry.
Chavez has also accused some companies of violating contracts for years.

-By Raul Gallegos, Dow Jones Newswires; 58-414-288-7461; raul.gallegos@dowjones.com

Monday August 21st, 2006 / 23h42

Aaaah surely not .... "violating contracts for years" .... no wonder people liked those former Presidents better. :P :P :P

Corruption = pay an official to get something

Is this the "corruption" ruining capitalism in Venezeula? Former politicians in Venezuela were letting foreign companies violate their contracts?

Apparently he's trying to correct the "corruption" as well.

I don't know neese, he looks to me to be one busy little bee El Presidente.

And he's still makes time to meet with Cindy Sheehan; write annoying speeches about our Leader; work out discounted heating oil deals for our poor people; AND defeat Bush and his Free Trade Agreement of the Americas that would merge our country into the Third World of the Westetern Hemisphere.

Maybe he's a workaholic. Is that it? A politician working over-time ... yep that could be very annoying to foreign companies cheating on their contracts, not paying enough taxes to sustain the local economy, and over-influencing Venezuela into poverty and pursuing an agenda to end the United States through a merger of the entire western hemisphere to set us up for One World Government. You know they're furious ... a little guy down there in Venezuela screwing up their plans they've worked so diligently on for the past 45 years to Rule the World? They must be nearing Globalists Rage.

Yep ... I can honestly see where he's a big pain in the ass of our Globalists. Yessirree. I can see that clear as a bell.

Judy, I like you...you're spunky!! Newmexican pretty much summed up my feelings on Chavez. You know what? I wish them well too. I don't like to see anyone suffer. It's just that Chavez is like a pesky gnat with a gigantic mouth. I have to be honest, he grates on my nerves. Considering the condition of the country, maybe he is the nicest man they could find. Time will tell. Maybe someday we can all sit around holding hands and sing Cum-Bay-Ah.

Originally Posted by Judy

http://www.easybourse.com/Website/dynamic/News.php?NewsID=44538&lang=fra&NewsRubrique=2

Aaaah and lookey here. He's still at it. Raising taxes now on oil.

Is that it neese?

Ooooooh...you got me Judy. No... I don't care if he raises taxes or if he stops selling oil to us all together. That is his business, and not mine. It is only my business when it affects the safety of our nation.

neese, I worked for a corporation with substantial investments, heavy major chemical and petroleum investments in Venezuela. I know the corruption. I know how it's worked down there for years. And it didn't start with Chavez ... but it might end with him.

Be careful about the attempt by this Administration and Globalists to villainize and demonize Chavez. I'm not a socialist. But I believe in honoring contracts and I believe that corporations that make money from these countries as foreign investors should contribute to the sustainability of the local population will taxes or economic development. The types of heavy industries we have in Venezuela do not create the types or number of jobs that Venezuela needs to sustain its population. One of the agendas that Chavez has is to try to diversity his economy and produce a broader range of products including those that are labor intensive. As someone who has through both public and private means worked in this area in the United States ... I know how difficult and challenging that goal is and how much time it will take. But I wish him and Venezuela and any other country trying to do this the best of success and we need to help them... not by giving away our industry or allowing them to send immigrants to our nation ... but in any other manner possible.

The reason I give Chavez a break is because he defeated the FTAA that would have ended our country last December.

I also like to see Presidents working national agendas because this means they are dedicated and loyal to their country and the welfare and future of their people. The more Presidents that do this ... the better it is for the United States because the fewer poor countries trying to lean on the US and the American People for sustainability like a bunch of parasites ... like Mexico for example ... the more successful and secure our nation will be.

And introducing some sorely needed social programs to help his people doesn't make Chavez our enemy or his government a threat to the United States.

neese, I worked for a corporation with substantial investments, heavy major chemical and petroleum investments in Venezuela. I know the corruption. I know how it's worked down there for years. And it didn't start with Chavez ... but it might end with him.

I bet you have some fascinationg stories. We take a lot for granted here in the US, and it is easy to forget that people live differently in other parts of the world. I am surprised that they don't clean up the crime though, they are missing out on a lot of tourism dollars. Did you get a chance to go to Venezuela? Do you have friends there?

Unfortunately I didn't handle South America. Two of my associates, Frank and Harry handled Venezuela and several other South American countries and did all the travelling there. We were all informed and collaborated on all our projects and their travel to Venezuela and every foreign country was meticulously arranged and there were strict rules they had to follow when on the road because of the concern for kidnappings; extortion; robbery. When you're a representative of at that time a Fortune 10 corporation, you are a target ... even here in the states. We all had to be very careful and follow rules.

I would like to visit South America one day soon. I would like to visit Venezeula because of all the hub bub about it; Columbia because I would like to see their rain forest; Argentina because I would like to see their ranches; and Brazil because I would like to see everything in Brazil...I imagine it to be a beautiful country. Maybe next year I'll have time to plan that trip.

Any tips?

Any tips?

Yes, come home safely.I would definetely use your connections to set up your trip with a reputable travel advisor. I don't think that South America is the place that you want to wing it. It does sound very beautiful and if you are lucky enough to find people who are willing to share their culture with you, it is bound to be a memorable trip. The question is...is South America ready for Judy?....you'll have that place organized in a week!

Originally Posted by Neese

[quote:39rxngca]Any tips?

Yes, come home safely.I would definetely use your connections to set up your trip with a reputable travel advisor. I don't think that South America is the place that you want to wing it. It does sound very beautiful and if you are lucky enough to find people who are willing to share their culture with you, it is bound to be a memorable trip. The question is...is South America ready for Judy?....you'll have that place organized in a week!

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Yes, I will probaby call the company I used to work for and have done some consulting with since and use some of their organizations to set things up. It will take some planning because for some reason ... I do stand out and draw attention. I really don't know why that is ...