Thread: End-of-life counseling fuels furor on radio

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FACT CHECK: Distortions rife in health care debate

http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-932929.html#932929

This is text of bill from the Hill.

http://thehill.com/images/stories/news/ ... -1.cgi.pdf

On page 425 it says in black and white that EVERYONE on Social Security, (will include all Senior Citizens and SSI people) will go to MANDATORY counseling every 5 years to learn and to choose from ways to end your suffering (and your life). Health care will be denied based on age. 500 Billion will be cut from Seniors healthcare. The only way for that to happen is to drastically cut health care, the oldest and the sickest will be cut first. Paying for your own care will not be an option.

Now, CALL YOUR PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell them to read page 425 if they don't read anything else. Surely some of them have parents.

Originally Posted by jamesw62

On page 425 it says in black and white that EVERYONE on Social Security, (will include all Senior Citizens and SSI people) will go to MANDATORY counseling every 5 years to learn and to choose from ways to end your suffering (and your life). Health care will be denied based on age. 500 Billion will be cut from Seniors healthcare. The only way for that to happen is to drastically cut health care, the oldest and the sickest will be cut first. Paying for your own care will not be an option.

Now, CALL YOUR PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell them to read page 425 if they don't read anything else. Surely some of them have parents.

I scanned the pages 424 to 429 and do NOT see the words "EVERYONE on Social Security, (will include all Senior Citizens and SSI people) " on any of these pages. It does NOT say that the End Of Life Counseling is mandatory. It says that the counseling MUST be made available every five years and that the doctor will be paid for the time it takes him for this counseling. It does not say that the patent has to participate. That's what I'm reading.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Originally Posted by azwreath

Originally Posted by 4thHorseman

Re: AZWREATH's post: "Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman's)"

Originally Posted by 4thHorseman

Can you post a direct link to Mr. Fleckstein's Twitter then?

Everything I have read......at several sources....have all posted the same information from his interpretations.

I would like to read his Twitter in comparison to what has been posted if what has been posted is now being called "misinformation"

Peter Fleckenstein (fleckman) on Twitter

http://blog.flecksoflife.com/

twitter.com/Fleckman

Thank you JD2 for taking the time to find and post this.

I don't mind doing my own investigating......and much rather prefer it actually.