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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
    It is sad but true that some of those who are to uphold the law are too often the ones lying and violating the law. They are not beyond doing unethical and/or prejudicial things while knowing the target is innocent or not deserving of the far reaching charges.

    Bleeding individuals financially is another tactic to get a desired outcome. The corruption we see in government happens in the justice system.
    You know, while all these things are awful, what's coming out about Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey, and many others, it's like an "airing", like giving the bad guys their own stage to show the whole world who they really are and how low they will really go to take someone down they don't like or are jealous of or whatever it is, maybe to make a name for themselves, get even, or collect their own form of payola.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Oh how sad, MW doesn't understand that insider trading is treated in the criminal courts as "securities fraud" and "conspiracy". SEC files a separate suit to try to get fines. They didn't get any fines and Comey didn't get any convictions on Martha Stewart because she was innocent so said both juries. The criminal jury said she was guilty of "lying to the FBI". The jury said afterwards they thought she should have testified and since she didn't convicted her of "lying to the FBI". Apparently they didn't know not testifying can't be held against you or disregarded it.
    Geez, Judy, this is't brain science. Do your homework as I did! The DOJ DID NOT CRIMINALLY PROSECUTE Martha Stewart for insider trading. That's it, the end, there is no more!

    I know you feel you're entitled to the last word, but you're trying my patience with your constant obfuscation and non-truths. Saying something over and over that isn't true doesn't all the sudden make it true.

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    What Are the Consequences of Lying to the FBI? - FindLaw Blotter
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    Feb 21, 2017 - State laws can vary when it comes to false statements, but lying during federal investigation is a felony carrying a potential five year prison sentence. And that's just your standard, run-of-the-mill federal obstruction of justice charge. What about misleading the FBI regarding your alleged contact with the ...
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    Martha Stewart - Wikipedia

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    After a highly publicized six-week jury trial, Stewart was found
    guilty in March 2004 of

    felony charges of conspiracy,

    obstruction of an agency proceeding,

    and making false statements to federal investigators,

    and was sentenced in July 2004 to serve a five-month term in a federal correctional facility and a two-year ...

    Martha Stewart - Wikipedia

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    After a highly publicized six-week jury trial, Stewart was found guilty in March 2004 of felony charges of conspiracy, obstruction of an agency proceeding, and making false statements to federal investigators, and was sentenced in July 2004 to serve a five-month term in a federal correctional facility and a two-year ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post


    Geez, Judy, this is't brain science. Do your homework as I did! The DOJ DID NOT CRIMINALLY PROSECUTE Martha Stewart for insider trading. That's it, the end, there is no more!

    I know you feel you're entitled to the last word, but you're trying my patience with your constant obfuscation and non-truths. Saying something over and over that isn't true doesn't all the sudden make it true.

    If you want to continue to blast to the world that you didn't know or understand that Martha Stewart was charged with securities fraud for insider trading, that's fine with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Martha Stewart - Wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Stewart
    After a highly publicized six-week jury trial, Stewart was found
    guilty in March 2004 of

    felony charges of conspiracy,

    obstruction of an agency proceeding,

    and making false statements to federal investigators,

    and was sentenced in July 2004 to serve a five-month term in a federal correctional facility and a two-year ...

    Martha Stewart - Wikipedia

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    After a highly publicized six-week jury trial, Stewart was found guilty in March 2004 of felony charges of conspiracy, obstruction of an agency proceeding, and making false statements to federal investigators, and was sentenced in July 2004 to serve a five-month term in a federal correctional facility and a two-year ...
    It's all tied to the one act of "lying to the FBI." Same thing they're doing to all these Russia Hoax defendants which is why we're talking about it.
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    Martha Stewart was accused of insider trading after she sold four thousand ImClone shares one day before that firm's stock price plummeted. Although the charges of securities fraud were thrown out, Ms. Stewart was found guilty of four counts of obstruction of justice and lying to investigators.

    Martha Stewart's Insider Trading Scandal - Daniels Fund Ethics Initiative

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    Martha Stewart's Insider Trading Scandal - Daniels Fund Ethics Initiative
    She was innocent.
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    Ms. Stewart was found guilty of four counts of obstruction of justice and lying to investigators.

    Martha Stewart's Insider Trading Scandal - Daniels Fund Ethics Initiative
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    She was innocent of insider trading, innocent of securities fraud, innocent of everything except "lying to the FBI" in a casual interview where she misspoke about who she was talking to in the stock brokerage firm handling her stock. The feds bankrupted her company, they cost all those wonderful shareholders all their investment, cost all her wonderful employees their jobs. Why? A false charge of insider trading to make a name for Jim Comey.
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