Thread: Are feds stockpiling survival food?

Are feds stockpiling survival food?
'These circumstances certainly raise red flags'

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Posted: July 24, 2008
12:00 am Eastern

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A Wall Street Journal columnist has advised people to "start stockpiling food" and an ABC News Report says "there are worrying signs appearing in the United States where some … locals are beginning to hoard supplies." Now there's concern that the U.S. government may be competing with consumers for stocks of storable food.

"We're told that the feds bought the entire container of canned butter when it hit the California docks. (Something's up!)," said officials at Best Prices Storable Foods in an advisory to customers.

Spokesman Bruce Hopkins told WND he also has had trouble obtaining No. 10 cans of various products from one of the world's larger suppliers of food stores, Oregon Freeze Dry.

He said a company official told him on the telephone when he discussed the status of his order that it was because the government had purchased massive quantities of products, leaving none for other customers.

That, however, was denied by Oregon Freeze Dry. In a website statement, the company confirmed it cannot assure supplying some items to customers.

"We regret to inform you Oregon Freeze Dry cannot satisfy all Mountain House #10 can orders and we have removed #10 cans from our website temporarily," the company tells frustrated customers. "The reason for this is sales of #10 cans have continued to increase. OFD is allocating as much production capacity as possible to this market segment, but we must maintain capacity for our other market segments as well."

The company statement continues, "We want to clarify inaccurate information we’ve seen on the Internet. This situation is not due to sales to the government domestically or in Iraq. We do sell products to this market, but we also sell other market segments … The reason for this decision is solely due to an unprecedented sales spike in #10 cans sales.

"We expect this situation to be necessary for several months although this isn’t a guarantee. We will update this information as soon as we know more. We apologize for this inconvenience and appreciate your patience. We sincerely hope you will continue to be Mountain House customers in the future," the company statement said.

But Hopkins wasn't backing away from his concerns.

"The government just came in and said they're buying it. They did pay for it," he told WND about the summertime shipment of long-term storage butter. "They took it and no one else could have it.

"We don't know why. The feds then went to freeze dried companies, and bought most of their canned stock," he said.

A spokeswoman for Oregon Freeze Dry, sales manager Melanie Cornutt, told WND that the increasing demand for food that can be stored has been on the rise since Hurricane Katrina devastated large sections of the Gulf Coast, cutting off ordinary supply routes.

"We are currently out of stock on our cans. We are not selling any of our cans," she confirmed.

She then raised the issue of government purchases herself.

"We do sell to the government [but] it is not the reason [for company sales limits]," she said.

Officials with the Federal Emergency Management Agency told WND whatever government agency is buying in a surge it isn't them. They reported a stockpile of about six million meals which has not changed significantly in an extended period.

But Hopkins said it was his opinion the government is purchasing huge quantities of food for stockpiles, and Americans will have to surmise why.

"We don't have shelters that [are being] stocked with food. We're not doing this for the public. My only conclusion is that they're stocking up for themselves," he said of government officials.

Blogger Holly Deyo issued an alert this week announcing, "Unprecedented demand cleans out major storable food supplier through 2009."

"It came to our attention today, that the world's largest producer of storable foods, Mountain House, is currently out of stock of ALL #10 cans of freeze dried foods, not just the Turkey Tetrazzini. They will NOT have product now through 2009," she said.

"This information was learned by a Mountain House dealer who shared it with me this morning. In personally talking with the company immediately after, Mountain House verified the information is true. Customer service stated, 'I'm surprised they don't have this posted on the website yet.' She said they have such a backlog of orders, Mountain House will not be taking any #10 can food requests through the remainder of this year and all of the next.

"Mountain House claims this situation is due to a backlog of orders, which may very well be true, but who is purchasing all of their food? This is a massive global corporation.

"One idea: the military. Tensions are ramping up with Iran and news segments debate whether or not we will implement a preemptive strike in conjunction with Israel," she wrote.

Hopkins raised some of the same concerns, suggesting a military conflict could cause oil supplies to plummet, triggering a huge increase in the cost of food – when it would be available – because of the transportation issues.

The ABC report from just a few weeks ago quoted Jim Rawles, a former U.S. intelligence officer who runs a survival blog, saying food shortages soon could become a matter of survival in the U.S.

"I think that families should be prepared for times of crisis, whether it's a man-made disaster or a natural disaster, and I think it's wise and prudent to stock up on food," he told ABC.

"If you get into a situation where fuel supplies are disrupted or even if the power grid were to go down for short periods of time, people can work around that," he said. "But you can't work around a lack of food – people starve, people panic and you end up with chaos in the streets."

At his California ranch, the location of which is kept secret, he said, "We have more than a three-year supply of food here."

In the Wall Street Journal, columnist Brett Arends warned, "Maybe it's time for Americans to start stockpiling food.

"No, this is not a drill," he wrote.

His concern was about various food shortages around the globe, and the fact that in a global market, prices in the U.S. reflect difficulties in other parts of the world quickly.

Professor Lawrence F. Roberge, a biologist who has worked with a number of universities and has taught online courses, told WND he's been following the growing concern over food supplies.

He also confirmed to WND reports of the government purchasing vast quantities of long-term storable foods.

He said that naturally would be kept secret to avoid panicking the public, such as when word leaks out to customers that a bank may be insolvent, and depositors frantically try to retrieve their cash.

"[These] circumstances certainly raise red flags," he said.

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here we go... get ready people

I got a lot of Mountain House #10 cans from this site:

www.nitro-pak.com

They don't have anything on there about being out of MM through 2009.

It does take about 1 month to get Mountain House #10 cans.

I'd be ordering some for the just in case.

YEP HERE WE GO. STORE SOME FOOD. RICE, BEANS, CANS. HAVE SOME WATER STORED, BUT WATCH THE DATE ON IT. USE THE OLDEST WATER FIRST SO YOUR STORE STAYS FRESH.

GET SOME FOOD PLANTS GOING. POTATOES ARE EASY TO GROW....SO ARE TURNIPS. ALSO SOY BEAN IS EASY TO GROW AND PROVIDES PROTEIN. CARROTS ARE VERY EASY.

IF YOU TAKE MEDICATION OF ANY TYPE....STAY AHEAD....DONT LET IT GET LOW. BUT AGAIN WATCH THE EXPIRATION DATE AND ALWAYS ....ALWAYS.....ALWAYS USE THE OLDEST FIRST.

STORE UP ON BASICS LIKE SOAP, ALCOHOL, PEROXIDE.

I HAVE ALSO STORED UP ON FLOUR AND TAUGHT MYSELF TO MAKE BREAD. ITS NOT HARD. I ACTUALLY FOUND A GOOD RECIPE FOR BEER BREAD. ITS QUICK...NO KNEADING OR WAITING FOR THE YEAST TO RISE. THE YEAST IN THE BEER DOES IT.

KEEP SOME BISQUICK ON HAND TO MAKE BREAD AND OTHER BAKED ITEMS.

I JUST WENT TO MOUNTAIN HOUSE SITE. THEY ARE "OUT OF STOCK" ON ALL #10 CANS OF EVERYTHING.

Originally Posted by SarahPorter

I got a lot of Mountain House #10 cans from this site:

www.nitro-pak.com

They don't have anything on there about being out of MM through 2009.

It does take about 1 month to get Mountain House #10 cans.

I'd be ordering some for the just in case.

YES NITRO-PAK DOES HAVE IT. THEY HAVE A WIDE VARIETY. AND SOME ARE EVEN ON SALE.

Hi Jean,

Is this far fetched, just like amnesty?

Stockpiling survival food? Why? To feed illegals and H-1Bs in a post nuclear attack environment!

Well, George Bush issued the statement that we can't reconstitute the country after a nuclear strike, without the help of illegals. They have to be fed.
Far fetched, you say, read this:
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-70939.html

Hillary, John Cornyn, and Lamar Smith always say we have to have the best and the brightest (they only come from India)
Far fetched, you say, read this:
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-124544.html

Well, well, well. In a post nuclear strike environment who's gonna be in charge? "Why, the best and the brightest, of course" If Washington gets hit, what's our capital gonna be? Bangalore, India, or Mexico City - take your pick!