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    Rep. Luna Introduces Legislation to protect your privacy against government snooping

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    Let us recall the warnings about the so-called Patriot Act, which turned out to be un-patriotic, and used as a vehicle against American citizens.

    See: BREAKING: Rep. Luna Introduces Legislation to Repeal the USA Patriot Act

    May 07, 2025

    “For over two decades, rogue actors within our U.S. intelligence agencies have used the Patriot Act to create the most sophisticated, unaccountable surveillance apparatus in the Western world,” said Congresswoman Luna. “My legislation will strip the deep state of these tools and protect every American’s fourth amendment right against unreasonable searches and seizures. It’s past time to rein in our intelligence agencies and restore the right to privacy. Anyone trying to convince you otherwise is using ‘security’ as an excuse to erode your freedom.”

    A government created and controlled cashless society opens the door to a notoriously evil opportunity for government surveillance of every financial transaction made by American citizens, and renders their privacy meaningless.


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    "The War on Cash is the War on You"

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    A real good read!

    The War on Cash: How a Cashless Society Will Strip You of Freedom, Privacy, and Control

    Conclusion: The War on Cash is the War on You

    A cashless society is not progress it’s a power grab. It’s a system designed to strip you of control, privacy, and financial freedom, placing your entire existence in the hands of corporations, employers, banks, agencies and governments that have shown time and time again they cannot be trusted.
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    Angry Our cashless society Mafia at work​

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    City residents who don't have a debit or credit card or iPhone are told to go pound sand if wanting to park on public property. Of course, government forcing this upon people is blatantly un-constitution and violates 31 U.S. Code § 5103 - what is a "Legal tender" for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues, and that is in addition to anti-discrimination statutes.

    In any event see the cashless society Mafia at work:

    Wilton Manors parking meters will go cashless; city commission gets first look at public art master plan

    Starting May 5, the city will begin updating its parking meters to no longer accept cash or coins.

    The options to pay are: debit or credit card at a meter or pay station, use of the ParkMobile app, scanning QR codes, texting “Park” to 77223, or by phone at 877-727-5714.
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    See:H.R. 1138: Payment Choice Act of 2025 (119th Congress) Bill Summary | Quiver...

    What is stunning about the bill, it can only apply to government entities, and not a private business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
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    See:H.R. 1138: Payment Choice Act of 2025 (119th Congress) Bill Summary | Quiver... What is stunning about the bill, it can only apply to government entities, and not a private business.

    HR 1138 Payment Choice Act of 2025

    The Payment Choice Act of 2025 aims to ensure that United States currency, specifically cash, is accepted as legal tender for transactions at retail locations across the country. Here is what the bill entails:

    Key Provisions

    • The bill states that every consumer has the right to use cash as payment at retail businesses where in-person payments are accepted.

    • Retailers who accept cash payments must accept up to $500 in cash for transactions. They cannot charge a higher price for customers paying with cash compared to those using other payment methods.

    • There are exceptions for businesses that cannot accept cash due to temporary issues, such as a failure in their payment system or not having enough cash to provide change. Businesses can also use cash-to-prepaid card devices on their premises under certain conditions, which must be provided at no fee and should not require personal information from the customer.

    • For a period of five years post-enactment, businesses may refuse to accept cash payments in bills of $50 or larger. After that time, the Secretary of the Treasury will issue rules regarding the denominations that must be accepted.

    • The bill includes mechanisms for enforcement. Consumers who encounter violations can notify businesses through a formal notice. If the issue isn't resolved within 45 days, they can pursue civil action, which may include seeking damages and penalties against the violating business.

    • If a court determines that a business violated the provisions, that business may be liable for actual damages, along with possibly $250 in liquidated damages if the actual damages are less than that amount. Civil penalties could amount to up to $500 for a first violation and $1,500 for subsequent ones.

    • The bill does not prevent states or local governments from establishing consumer protections that are more stringent than those outlined in the federal bill.


    My comments:
    Notice they are limiting the denomination of currency to not include $50 or 100 bills!

    This Bill contains several red flags so Vote NO.

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    National Park Service sued over refusal to accept entry fee in cash

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    Cashless Lawsuit Revived Against National Park Service

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    TOBY STOVER v UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, UNITED STATES NATIONAL PARK SERVICE

    Unfortunately, the plaintiff misses the fact that forcing electronic payments is blatantly discriminatory, and mostly affects the poor and elderly.

    Government entities which require electronic payment for public services and things such as parking meters, camping ground facilities, toll roads, etc., blatantly discriminate against American citizens who may not qualify, or cannot afford electronic payment systems, or simply object to sharing personal information concerning their spending habits.

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