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    More Inconvenient Truths

    More Inconvenient Truths
    The Fifth Column Jack Ward
    December 22, 2007


    In Al Gore’s environmental tome and movie, ‘An Inconvenient Truth’, he claims that anthropogenic (human-caused) activity will cause irreversible damage to the planet. The basis of this claim is that by using carbon based fuels (oil, gas, coal, wood) to produce energy, we will increase the carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere and cause global warming. According to Gore, this global warming will cause glaciers to melt, causing the oceans to rise thereby flooding all the coastal communities. Of course, the poor, minorities, women, and children will die first.


    Gore erroneously assumes that current conditions on earth are the natural state. Even a cursory study of the earth would reveal that nothing related to the earth is constant. Continents move, the oceans rise and fall, glaciers advance and retreat, the magnetic poles have moved and reversed, the composition of the atmosphere has varied and the earth’s temperature has warmed and cooled. All of these events occurred without any human influence.

    The earth’s tectonic plates constantly move. The continents have moved thousands of miles. The clash of these tectonic plates has created massive mountain ranges. Earthquakes are the result of the movement of these tectonic plates.

    Fossilized kelp and fossils of ocean creatures have been found at altitudes over 5000 feet above the current sea level. We know the kelp and sea creatures lived in the oceans so either the land was pushed up or the oceans receded. Either scenario makes the global warming doomsday predictions laughable. The sea level changes predicted by these global warming zealots are dwarfed by previous variations of sea level changes.

    Ice cores have established the existence of at least 17 Ice Age Cycles in just the past 2 million years. During those Ice Ages Cycles, glaciers several thousand feet thick came as far south as the mid U.S. Each Ice Age Cycle lasted about 100,000 years separated by an interglacial warming period of about 10,000 years. We are in an interglacial period now, so another Ice Age is a safe bet.

    The north and south magnetic poles wander independently and it been theorized that the north and south magnetic poles have reversed numerous times. The last reversal occurred about 740,000 years ago. Evidence of these reversals is recorded in the magnetism of ancient rocks. The sun also reverses poles but on a more predictable cycle. The next reversal of the sun’s magnetic poles will be in 2012. The earth’s pole reversals are unpredictable and many scientists feel another magnetic pole reversal is overdue. A reversal of the earth’s magnetic poles would be far more serious than the predicted rise in the earth's temperature of 2 degrees Celsius over the next 100 years.

    Despite Al Gore’s contention that the CO2 in the atmosphere is approaching dangerous levels, scientists tell us that CO2 levels have been as high as 15 times the current level of about 380 parts per million (ppm) and levels of about 5 times the current level were common. The current level of 380 ppm is like comparing the contents of an eye dropper to a swimming pool. Plants thrived at the higher CO2 levels and varying CO2 levels aren’t harmful to plants, animals, or humans.

    Dr. Fred Singer, atmospheric physicist from the University of Virginia, summed up these Inconvenient Truths this way. Singer said, “We have to remember that the climate has always been changing ever since we have records, and we have geologic records going back millions and millions of years. We know that there have been huge climate changes on the earth long before human beings actually came into existence.â€
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    Nice piece! Thanks for posting it.
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    I spoke with a meteorologist this weekend and he said no doubt about global warming. Yes there are large changes we don't cause but this does not prevent us from saying we have a negative effect on our environment when we pollute at will. If global-warming "theories" move us toward clean, sustainable energy, where we aren't dependent on oil from not-so-friendly countries and aren't spewing poisons into the air, then future generations will thank us for our "ignorant" response to questionable scientific data. Everyone knows the oil won't last forever - the sooner we give up that teat the happier all of earth's inhabitants will be. BTW I do think we should look at Alaska for our oil in the short run during the transition, for political reasons, if not financial.

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    I agree that global warming appears to be happening, but:

    1.) It is not a result of human activity, but is a natural cycle of glaciation and inter-glacials that has been going on for hundreds of millions of years and is not caused by CO2, but by a combination of eccentricities in our orbit around the sun, variations in the sun's output and variations in the earth's tilt on it's axis.

    2.) The effects of global warming and the rapidity of the changes global warming brings about are being greatly exaggerated by fear monger alarmists to further their own political agendas and by the media to sell newspapers, and increase radio and TV ratings.

    3.) The Earth's climate has been variable and changing for billions of years and who's to say the climate we have right now is the ideal climate and that a climate that is different than we have right now might not be better?

    I agree that getting us off dependence on petroleum is what we need to do, but not at the cost of trashing the world's economy and destroying our standard of living, leaving us to starve and freeze to death in the dark.

    If we so desire, we can switch to different energy sources such as solar, wind, geothermal, nuclear, coal, hydropower, etc. These various souces of energy could supply all we need, but we lack the political will to focus on developing and using them more. Once we make up our collective mind to switch, we will.
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