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    The official DHS domestic extremism definitions

    This is PDF so I can't copy/paste, but everyone you know needs to read this paper.

    http://www.tdbimg.com/files/2009/04/30/ ... 935473.pdf
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    I will be sure to read Cayla but first wanted to say something about being unable to copy/paste PDF format.

    There is a way it can be done.....I believe the process involves sending it to something like a clip board, note book, etc. Once it's there, then it can be copied and pasted.

    I'm not certain of all the ins and outs but I know my kids have done this and they tell me there's all kinds of instructions for accomplishing it floating around out there.
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    Wow, I just skimmed it. Christians are people who say all white people of non-Jewish descent are God's chosen people. I've been Christian my whole life and NEVER has that been the defination.

    Got to get a load of the anti-illegal immigration defination. Anti- anything that has to do with Mexicans south of the border.

    Hey, I got a defination for them. Complete nut jobs![/quote]
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    Plus, love the fact it's private. Hey you can change anything and it's fine and no reason to tell anyone that they've changed the defination of everything.
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    Wow.....seems like EVERYONE has been labeled as a potential threat and that includes La Raza and all similar advocacy groups by definition.


    (U) direct action (U//FOUO) Lawful or unlawful acts of civil disobedience
    ranging from protests to property destruction or acts of
    violence. This term is most often used by single-issue or
    anarchist extremists to describe their activities.

    (U) ethnic-based
    extremism
    (U//FOUO) A movement of groups or individuals who are
    drawn together and form extremist beliefs based on their
    ethnic or cultural background. Members have advocated or
    engaged in criminal activity and have plotted acts of violence
    and terrorism in an attempt to advance their extremist goals.

    (U) leftwing
    extremism
    (U//FOUO) A movement of groups or individuals that
    embraces anticapitalist, Communist, or Socialist doctrines
    and seeks to bring about change through violent revolution
    rather than through established political processes. The term
    also refers to leftwing, single-issue extremist movements that
    are dedicated to causes such as environmentalism, opposition
    to war, and the rights of animals.


    (U) Mexican
    separatism
    (U//FOUO) A movement of groups or individuals of
    Mexican descent who advocate the secession of southwestern
    U.S. states (all or part of Arizona, California, New Mexico,
    and Texas) to join with Mexico through armed struggle.
    Members do not recognize the legitimacy of these U.S. states,
    including the U.S. Government’s original acquisition of these
    territories.


    (U) primary targeting (U//FOUO) Plans or attacks directed by extremists against
    parties that are the focus of an organized campaign.

    (U) radicalization (U//FOUO) The process by which an individual adopts an
    extremist belief system leading to his or her willingness to
    advocate or bring about political, religious, economic, or
    social change through the use of force, violence, or
    ideologically motivated criminal activity.




    OOPS!! Hit the wrong button Good God, there are just some days when my family should NOT let me out of the attic......

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    This is the one that astounded me

    patriot movement (U//FOUO) A term used by rightwing extremists to link their
    beliefs to those commonly associated with the American
    Revolution. The patriot movement primarily comprises
    violent antigovernment groups such as militias and sovereign
    citizens.
    (also: Christian patriots, patriot group, Constitutionalists,
    Constitutionist)
    So if you think like the founders of this country you're labeled an extremist???
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    (U) secondary
    targeting
    (U//FOUO) Plans or attacks directed against parties
    (secondary targets) that provide direct financial, logistic, or
    physical support to the primary target of an organized
    campaign, with the goal of coercing those parties to end their
    engagement with a primary target. Secondary targets can
    include customers of or suppliers to a primary target or
    employees of a primary target organization.

    (U) single-issue
    extremist groups
    (U//FOUO) Groups or individuals who focus on a single
    issue or cause—such as animal rights, environmental or
    anti-abortion extremism—and often employ criminal acts.
    Group members may be associated with more than one issue.
    (also: special interest extremists)

    (U) tertiary targeting (U//FOUO) Plans or attacks against parties with indirect
    links to the primary target of an organized campaign.
    Tertiary targets can include employees, customers, investors,
    and other participants in a company (the secondary target)
    that does business with or provides support services to the
    primary target; or parties who provide direct financial,
    logistic, or physical support to the secondary target.

    (U) underground (U//FOUO) A term used to describe clandestine extremist
    groups, individuals, or their activities.





    It actually seems like there is more here which describes the actions, activities, tactics, and agendas of the pro-illegal advocacy, reconquistas, their political plants, etc. than there is which applies to the average American citizen who is politically involved.

    I also find it somewhat encouraging.....yeah, I know, hard to believe.....that in describing what they call "extremists" they include, in the definition, the terminology "and who have been
    known to advocate or engage in criminal activity and plot acts
    of violence and terrorism to advance their extremist goals"

    That "AND" is very important within the context and what follows does not describe the majority of those of us who are politically involved.
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    They say that........the reformers and radicals of any government get the bad name when they come out. They act like, out of no-where and for no good reason, all these people rebel. People don't do things for no reason, they don't revolt because there's nothing better to do. There's that missing piece in the middle.

    Call me crazy, but I wonder what the real issues are with the terriorists? Heck fire, we're hand and glove compared to them and called the same.....but I'd never advocate mass suicide or all the other insanity. I mean where's the line? I looked at the anti-abortion thing. I'm pro-choice, but I don't advocate it as an easy "birth control" method. I drew the line when they were bombing clinics and killing Dr's. I don't believe that is the answer.....but after Obama's ruling, how am I to know it won't switch to a China type atmosphere or DNA clinics where they FORCE women to abortion? Then I might advocate the extreem. When did that line cross from people with a legitament issue to extreem measures? I can empathise with those with the right to die with dignaty, but when does it cross to killing for organs or whatever?
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    Did the Gov't leak this to scare us?

    I don't know anyone that is not a Right-Wing Extremists. And I wonder what the plan is to punish Right-Wingers?
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    "TAG, you're it!", well according to DHS we all are "it" now.

    I have sent many people this link, and plan to keep doing this to show people how we have pretty much all become enemies of the government.

    To be brutally honest, my own son, who is 15, and very much aware of all of this, is now becoming afraid of his own government, for fear if he has ANY opinion, he will be scrutinized and potentially linked up with something he cannot even imagine. What way is this, to live in fear of our own government? What would posses them to label pretty much ALL Americans, in one way or another, under such general terms, to make us all into extremists?

    Have an opinion, well you just might be an extremist.

    If someone was never an extremist and was upset enough over the everyday stuff going on, and then read both documents, it could then swing them over to extremism, in Biblical terms, "provoking them to wrath".
    “In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.

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