Thread: Trump Asked Top Aides to Review Whether to Rejoin TPP, Senator Says

Originally Posted by Judy

Donald J. Trump
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9h9 hours ago

Would only join TPP if the deal were substantially better than the deal offered to Pres. Obama. We already have BILATERAL deals with six of the eleven nations in TPP, and are working to make a deal with the biggest of those nations, Japan, who has hit us hard on trade for years!

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We'll see. I don't believe anything he says anymore. Actions are the only thing I will ever believe out of him and even then I'm still skeptical depending on the action taken.

I bet if you asked Trump tomorrow what his position is on TPP he would give you a completely different answer depending on who he last spoke with. Starting to wonder at 70 if dementia is starting to set in like you know it has for Pelosi, Mcshame on all the other old head idiots that run our government.

No, he's trying to fix our country and doing a great job at it, too. I'm a protectionist, always have been, but I support international trade, so long as the rules protect our industries and jobs operating in the United States. You know whether it is by the trade balance for manufactured goods. If we're consistently in trade deficits and by a lot, then the rules don't work and you have to either change the agreement or use tariffs to regulate it back to a trade balance or trade surplus in goods.

The services portion is irrelevant because it's just sales fees mostly for insurance and bank businesses and doesn't impact enough jobs to matter, it brings in income, but not enough on any level to offset the loss of trade in manufactured goods because there's no multiplier, which is why Trump focuses on the goods portion. Then FACT CHECK says he lied. No he didn't lie, he told you the truth about the numbers that matter.

Trump describes himself as a free trader, when it's "fair trade" and more recently he's moved to the term "reciprocal trade", because "fair trade" has other meanings in the globalist world, that he doesn't like or want . He doesn't use the term "protectionist" because it's unpopular and they (enemies) erroneously call you an isolationist xenophobe, which we aren't, we're protectionists. And Trump is by all definitions a protectionist and has been his whole adult life.

Fixing this 60 year disaster is a big task, very complicated, very technical and at the same time very political. It's going to take some time, finesse, maneuvering and negotiation but he'll fix it, it's the primary reason he ran for President.

HE PROMISED

ONE ON ONE TRADE!!!!

Originally Posted by Beezer

HE PROMISED

ONE ON ONE TRADE!!!!

No, dear Beezer, he didn't. What he promised was to withdraw from the TPP as it stood when he took office. He did that. He promised to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw and move to one on one's with Canada and Mexico. He promised to do a one on one with any country that left the EU, the Brits left, and as soon as their phase out is complete in late 2019 or early 2020, then he'll negotiate a one on one with them, or any other country in the future that leaves the EU. Until then we deal with the EU trade agreement until he would decide the break all hell loose in Europe and try to renegotiate or withdraw from that one. He promised to do a new trade deal with South Korea and has done that, it will be signed after we know what's going on with North Korea. He promised to do a new trade deal with Japan, but they're playing it tough because they're part of TPP, but hopefully we'll succeed at the end of the day with a new one one with Japan. He promised to stop China's unfair trade practices, he's doing that, using tariffs and negotiation, some good progress has been made with some promises to the world to reduce tariffs on imports into China and easing restrictions on doing business in China which could address the intellectual property issues as well. We'll see.

Trump said he prefers bi-lateral agreements, the one on ones, but he may not be able to get those everywhere and if the multi-lateral deals are good for US, then it makes no difference. CAFTA is an example of a multi-lateral that's good for US at least for now. And there's probably a couple to 3 others that are.

Trade deals are very complicated because they impact every single product and service we buy and sell, so they take a lot of time to a) figure out what you want and b) leverage and negotiate to get it.

Just give him time to do something no one else has done or even tried to do in 60 years.

Originally Posted by Judy

No, dear Beezer, he didn't. What he promised was to withdraw from the TPP as it stood when he took office. He did that. He promised to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw and move to one on one's with Canada and Mexico. He promised to do a one on one with any country that left the EU, the Brits left, and as soon as their phase out is complete in late 2019 or early 2020, then he'll negotiate a one on one with them, or any other country in the future that leaves the EU. Until then we deal with the EU trade agreement until he would decide the break all hell loose in Europe and try to renegotiate or withdraw from that one. He promised to do a new trade deal with South Korea and has done that, it will be signed after we know what's going on with North Korea. He promised to do a new trade deal with Japan, but they're playing it tough because they're part of TPP, but hopefully we'll succeed at the end of the day with a new one one with Japan. He promised to stop China's unfair trade practices, he's doing that, using tariffs and negotiation, some good progress has been made with some promises to the world to reduce tariffs on imports into China and easing restrictions on doing business in China which could address the intellectual property issues as well. We'll see.

Trump said he prefers bi-lateral agreements, the one on ones, but he may not be able to get those everywhere and if the multi-lateral deals are good for US, then it makes no difference. CAFTA is an example of a multi-lateral that's good for US at least for now. And there's probably a couple to 3 others that are.

Trade deals are very complicated because they impact every single product and service we buy and sell, so they take a lot of time to a) figure out what you want and b) leverage and negotiate to get it.

Just give him time to do something no one else has done or even tried to do in 60 years.

Defending Trump is not what is called for here. We need to hold his feet to the fire and hold him to his promises!

Originally Posted by MW

Defending Trump is not what is called for here. We need to hold his feet to the fire and hold him to his promises!

AMEN!!!

Originally Posted by Judy

No, dear Beezer, he didn't. What he promised was to withdraw from the TPP as it stood when he took office. He did that. He promised to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw and move to one on one's with Canada and Mexico. He promised to do a one on one with any country that left the EU, the Brits left, and as soon as their phase out is complete in late 2019 or early 2020, then he'll negotiate a one on one with them, or any other country in the future that leaves the EU. Until then we deal with the EU trade agreement until he would decide the break all hell loose in Europe and try to renegotiate or withdraw from that one. He promised to do a new trade deal with South Korea and has done that, it will be signed after we know what's going on with North Korea. He promised to do a new trade deal with Japan, but they're playing it tough because they're part of TPP, but hopefully we'll succeed at the end of the day with a new one one with Japan. He promised to stop China's unfair trade practices, he's doing that, using tariffs and negotiation, some good progress has been made with some promises to the world to reduce tariffs on imports into China and easing restrictions on doing business in China which could address the intellectual property issues as well. We'll see.

Trump said he prefers bi-lateral agreements, the one on ones, but he may not be able to get those everywhere and if the multi-lateral deals are good for US, then it makes no difference. CAFTA is an example of a multi-lateral that's good for US at least for now. And there's probably a couple to 3 others that are.

Trade deals are very complicated because they impact every single product and service we buy and sell, so they take a lot of time to a) figure out what you want and b) leverage and negotiate to get it.

Just give him time to do something no one else has done or even tried to do in 60 years.

He has done some decent things on China and he did end TPP for now. The rest of the trade stuff I will admit the jury is still out. I'm taking a wait and see approach although the TPP talk yesterday really pissed me off. Why even entertain that monstrosity? He has been another Bush on immigration, a total disaster. Sorry, no other way to spin it. I'm so over the DACA obsession that to be honest, if he talked like that during the campaign, I would have said FU I'm not voting for that. All of us would have. DACA should have been repealed as promises and never to be brought up again. Then he wants to talk about he has heart for them? How about having heart for those that have been murdered by the DACA? How about those angel mom's he stabbed in the back?

Ok I better stop because commenting further about this liar is really making my blood boil.

Originally Posted by dman1200

He has done some decent things on China and he did end TPP for now. The rest of the trade stuff I will admit the jury is still out. I'm taking a wait and see approach although the TPP talk yesterday really pissed me off. Why even entertain that monstrosity? He has been another Bush on immigration, a total disaster. Sorry, no other way to spin it. I'm so over the DACA obsession that to be honest, if he talked like that during the campaign, I would have said FU I'm not voting for that. All of us would have. DACA should have been repealed as promises and never to be brought up again. Then he wants to talk about he has heart for them? How about having heart for those that have been murdered by the DACA? How about those angel mom's he stabbed in the back?

Ok I better stop because commenting further about this liar is really making my blood boil.

LOL!! I understand, but just in the heat of it all please remember, there was no one else to vote for, no one else who would have done anything for us on trade or immigration, let alone all the other stuff, and the bottom line is:

He ended DAPA, Expanded DACA and DACA 2012. The only reason DACA 2012 is still going on is because of the courts, not Trump. We all knew there would be a court case on DACA 2012 and it will go all the way to the US Supreme Court. When the court rules it will be permanent law in the US, whatever that ruling turns out to be. Given the history of the US Supreme Court on immigration issues, this case has a high probability of being very disappointing to us, so there was good logic to try to find another way to deal with it through Congress. US Supreme Court Rulings not only bind the executive branch, they tie the hands of Congress as well.