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    No End in Sight for DACA as Executive Amnesty Turns Five (ALIPAC)

    Trump administration has processed more than 120,000 new permits for immigration program

    by Brendan Kirby | Updated 15 Jun 2017 at 8:54 PM

    Former President Barack Obama’s executive order granting quasi-amnesty turned five years old Thursday, and there is no sign it will end anytime soon — despite campaign promises President Donald Trump made.

    The broken pledge remains a sore spot with immigration hard-liners, may of whom praise the president’s performance on other aspects of the issue.

    Data released by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officials last week indicated that the government granted 17,311 new work permits to people under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program and renewed another 107,524 permits from January through March. That is roughly equivalent to the number of permits that the previous administration issued from October through December.

    Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, said he does not think it is a coincidence that the agency released the statistics during what he termed "Comey-palooza" — last week's testimony from fired FBI Director James Comey.

    "The very fact they haven't even stopped issuing new ones, let alone renewals, suggests they don't have any idea what to do with DACA and are just letting it go on autopilot," he said.

    Obama established DACA by executive order in 2012 after failing to win passage of legislation granting amnesty to illegal immigrants brought to America as children. It shielded recipients from deportation and granted renewable two-year permits that allowed them to legally work in the United States.

    Candidate Trump was clear that he believed DACA not only was bad policy but that Obama exceeded his authority in creating it.

    "We will work with them. They have to go," Trump told "Meet the Press" host Chuck Todd in August 2015. "We either have a country or we don't have a country."

    Dale Wilcox, executive director and general counsel of the Immigration Reform Law Institute, said Trump's original view was the right one. He noted that a federal court order temporarily blocking another Obama-era amnesty program for certain adult illegal immigrants also blocked changes the administration tried to make to loosen the requirements for DACA.

    That case remains pending after the Supreme Court divided 4-4, leaving the preliminary injunction in place.

    A federal judge earlier had dismissed a lawsuit challenging DACA for procedural reasons but never ruled on the merits and suggested that the program likely was unconstitutional. In light of the ruling on the other program, Deferred Action for Parents of Americans, Wilcox said, if a state under the jurisdiction of 5th U.S. District Court of Appeals were to sue today, "They would win."

    Trump could greatly simplify that, however, with the stroke of his pen.

    "We are very surprised," Wilcox said. "But I think there are different factions in the White House pulling at him not to undo DACA."

    Krikorian said Trump probably is sensitive to the fact that people brought to America as children are the most sympathetic group of illegal immigrants. He said it is hard to revoke a benefit already in place. But he added that the president could, without too much blowback, stop issuing new permits.

    Krikorian said it also might be worthwhile for Trump to trade DACA — agreeing to sign a law codifying amnesty for the group — in exchange for progress on some other aspect of immigration policy. He suggested ending the visa lottery system that randomly awards green cards to about 50,000 foreigners each year or curtailing the ability of new citizens to sponsor their extended families for immigration.

    But Trump so far has shown little inclination to do that.

    Trump's DACA reversal led the Americans for Legal Immigration political action committee to retroactively rescind its endorsement of the president. The group's leader, William Gheen, said he has little hope Trump will change his mind.

    "At this point, we are making the assumption that Trump lied about most, if not all, if his immigration promises," he said.

    Gheen said his organization is switching to defense, trying to block congressional efforts to pass amnesty. He said from now to the end of the year represents the biggest danger time, since lawmakers will be less likely to make such an attempt in an election year.

    "We need Americans to understand that if amnesty reaches Donald Trump's desk, there's a good chance he will sign it," he said.


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    Today, June 15, 2017 DHS Secretary Kelly after consultation with the DOJ and Jeff Sessions has revoked the 2014 Obama Orders. This will result in an end to the lawsuit filed by the 26 States and put those unconstitutional executive order issues to bed in our favor. I'm sure there's some court papers that will need to be filed by Texas and the DOJ to formally dismiss the lawsuit.

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    DACA remains and as Alipac stated in this article, the President lied. Congress will continue to work for the permanent amnesty for millions of illegal aliens.

    DACA is not just for lawful presence. It is a program for legalization and citizenship (Advanced Parole). Homeland Security may loosen the restrictions to make citizenship easier to attain.
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    DAPA has been blocked all this time anyway and dropping it means nothing to us and nothing to illegal aliens.

    DACA Amnesty continues under Trump proving Trump lies about his most important campaign promises and this makes illegal aliens very happy and makes Americans like us very upset and dissappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    DAPA has been blocked all this time anyway and dropping it means nothing to us and nothing to illegal aliens.

    DACA Amnesty continues under Trump proving Trump lies about his most important campaign promises and this makes illegal aliens very happy and makes Americans like us very upset and dissappointed.

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    You're absolutely right. DAPA had already been rejected by the courts. This was just a "make me look good" deal that really didn't accomplish a darn thing. If President Trump wants to get back on my good side he needs to keep his promise to the American people. END DACA NOW, Mr. President!
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    DAPA, DACA Expansion and the 3 year renewal were all revoked. The lawsuit has a ruling from Judge Hanen that kept DACA 2012 in effect during the injunction. The lawsuit should be dismissed within the next 2 weeks at which time that ruling collapses with the dismissal of the lawsuit.

    Also DAPA and DACA Expansion were not rejected by the courts. There was an injunction pending a trial to prevent their implementation pending a trial. With the time running out on the injunction, they had to revoke the Obama Orders of 2014 and ask Texas to dismiss the lawsuit. That ends everything associated with the 2014 Obama Crap as well as collapses Judge Hanen's ruling as part of his injunction to keep the original DACA 2012 in effect. That's why the Press Release says the original DACA June 15, 2012 Memo remains "in effect" to comply with that ruling until the lawsuit is officially dismissed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    DAPA, DACA Expansion and the 3 year renewal were all revoked. The lawsuit has a ruling from Judge Hanen that kept DACA 2012 in effect during the injunction. The lawsuit should be dismissed within the next 2 weeks at which time that ruling collapses with the dismissal of the lawsuit.

    Also DAPA and DACA Expansion were not rejected by the courts. There was an injunction pending a trial to prevent their implementation pending a trial. With the time running out on the injunction, they had to revoke the Obama Orders of 2014 and ask Texas to dismiss the lawsuit. That ends everything associated with the 2014 Obama Crap as well as collapses Judge Hanen's ruling as part of his injunction to keep the original DACA 2012 in effect. That's why the Press Release says the original DACA June 15, 2012 Memo remains "in effect" to comply with that ruling until the lawsuit is officially dismissed.

    Yes, they were! The U.S. Supreme Court's split decision upheld the lower court ruling. DAPA and the program expansion were already dead. Basically nothing was accomplished here. Furthermore, DACA is still alive and thriving as we speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post

    Yes, they were! The U.S. Supreme Court's split decision upheld the lower court ruling. DAPA and the program expansion were already dead. Basically nothing was accomplished here. Furthermore, DACA is still alive and thriving as we speak.
    No, they were not dead. The ruling that went to the US Supreme Court was a simple injunction to delay implementation until after a trial on the merits. It was NOT A RULING ON THE PROGRAMS or their constitutionality, it was a ruling on an injunction to delay implementation until there was a trial on the merits based on a technicality over proper administrative rules notice in the Federal Register.

    The ruling that went all the way to the US Supreme Court on the injunction INCLUDED a ruling that DACA 2012 REMAIN IN EFFECT during the injunction. You've called this President a liar, you've called him a betrayer, you've accused him of broken promises and even revoked our endorsement of him because you failed to understand that until this lawsuit is won or dismissed by Texas, this administration could not end DACA 2012 due to a federal court ruling that went all the way to the US Supreme Court and was UPHELD.

    When the lawsuit is dismissed, the President will then be free to decide what he wants to do and can do regarding the DACA 2012. There are other laws and issues that pertain to DACA 2012 and Congress appropriations committee is the reason for the DACA 2012 to begin with. That's why they pound Kelly on it non-stop in the Appropriation Sub-Committee hearings. It has to do with prosecutorial discretion and allocation of resources.

    I did the research on this and posted all of the information for everyone here months ago.

    DACA will remain alive and thriving until the US Department of Justice and the State of Texas dismiss the lawsuit. Then the issue will be Appropriations and related Committees of the US Congress.
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    DACA will remain alive and thriving until the US Department of Justice and the State of Texas dismiss the lawsuit. Then the issue will be Appropriations and related Committees of the US Congress.
    You're wrong. The President can end DACA now as could Secretary Kelly if he so desired. This is information well known by anyone that has followed the issue.
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