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    Bob Barr

    To SicNTiredInSoCal and Bowman - Where do you find that Bob Barr is pro-amnesty? I haven't found that. http://blog.bobbarr2008.com/2008/09/06/ ... on-policy/

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    I have sent the following:

    Dear Senator McCane,

    My dad is an advocate for disabled vets and is a huge supporter of yours, he would like for me to be also. The only problem is your stance on illegal immigration. As the wife of a LEGAL immigrant, I, like most Legal Immigrants and their families, view amnesty for illegals as a slap in our faces. The legal process for immigration is long, drawn out and expensive. Those who have sacrificed to do it right do not deserve to become second class citizens to those who blatantly and willingly ignored our laws.

    I as an American citizen also feel like I have been placed BELOW the illegal population I find it abhorrent that you care more about the Hispanic vote than the votes of the vast majority of this country. WE ARE FED UP! WE ARE FED UP WITH SUPPORTING ILLEGALS, DYING BY THE HANDS OF ILLEGALS, WIPING UP THE TEARS OF OUR DAUGHTERS WHO WERE RAPED BY ILLEGALS AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. I am still in shock that you feel it is ok to openly encourage non citizens to vote. Maybe you should discuss this with Mrs. Palin. Out of the 4 of you, she is the only one who has any clue how the average American feels, and what we want. What we want is for you to put AMERICAN CITIZENS FIRST NOT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!! It is simple really, SECURE OUR BORDERS, NO AMNESTY IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM AND RIGOROUSLY ENFORCE THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS!!!

    Sincerely,
    I will do Obama tonight, it is hard to write coherently when little man is awake.
    Proud American and wife of a wonderful LEGAL immigrant from Ireland.
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    letters to campaigns

    Dear Senator Obama,,

    I will not vote for you in November because you do not support the rule of law. You will attempt to make invaders Citizens. You will not discuss the impact on Citizens that this invasion has produced.

    You have the intelligence to discuss foreign visas and the devastating effect on Citizens. You could discuss the Law of the Seas treaty. You could discuss the financial crisis. You do realize that the USA has no money?

    You dodge the important issues. Instead, I get race, gender and lipstick on pigs. I have a homily for you. I am not buying a pig in a poke. No honest dialog, no vote.

    Sincerely,
    Shelva Preston


    Dear Senator McCain,

    You will not get my vote because I do not trust what you say. You fooled many people in the primary by stating you heard what the People wanted. You lied. The People said immigration enforcement. You are pushing amnesty again.

    I am insulted that you campaign in Mexico and that you have campaign ads in Spanish. Americans speak English.

    You speak of changing Washington. You have had 30 years in the Senate. You are one of the problems and you certainly have not provided answers.

    You do not have a clue about economics. You want all invaders to be Citizens. You have no respect for the rule of law.

    Your selection for VP makes no difference to me. I would not vote for you if God was your running mate.

    Sincerely,
    Shelva Preston

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    (Letter to Both and a million cheers to my FRIENDS AT ALIPAC; you folks are the Best in this whole wide WORLD!)

    Stopping amnesty and in turn an American First Hire Bill needs to be enacted.

    All groups fighting: against amnesty, for a clarification of 14th Amendment, and to close the border; if you will take get one minute to think about the end prize. The end prize is jobs. AMERICAN JOBS HAVE NO SAFEGUARD FOR AMERICAN TO BE HIRED FIRST INSTEAD OF LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

    And with NO SAFEGUARD for the American workers; is this the most severe problems Americans will be confronted with currently and in the very near future.

    Just this coming week while Americans are struggling to find a job; or feeling the threat of being displaced by a foreign worker Congress is in committee to pass the following:

    H.R. 5882 would reach back to 1992 and “recaptureâ€
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    Called and sent letters.

    OBAMA!
    Senator Obama:

    Your support for AMNESTY for "illegal aliens" and your pandering to them is absolutely disgusting!! You quote most all of their slogans which, in my opinion SLAPS every American in the face!! You know that the MAJORITY of Americans want our current immigration laws ENFORCED! But, you continually ignore that fact. Will you be chanting "stolen Continent" soon? I would like to see REAL change in Washington, but NOT the kind that give ILLEGAL aliens rewards for breaking our immigration laws. Therefore, you will NOT receive my vote!!! I will NEVER stop fighting against AMNESTY and encouraging others to do the same. Should you win, your stay in the White house will be a miserable one with Americans SCREAMING that they want our laws enforced!! If you lose, REMEMBER the votes you lost because of your SUPPORT FOR AMNESTY!!!!

    Your voting record on immigration issues is absolutely disgusting!!!! A DISGRACE!!!!!!! Where is your integrity? Will you sell this country out for a vote??? If so this is NOT a person who should reside in the White House! Someone who sells out our country to win a vote is disgraceful!!! How can you sleep at night? I WILL NOT VOTE FOR SELLOUTS!!!! In my opinion, that is exactly what you are!!!
    http://grades.betterimmigration.com/tes ... VIPID=1162

    A record to be proud of? NO!! You should be hanging your head in shame...but I guess that would be impossible if you are looking out for your own self interests and agenda and NOT those of the American people, because you HAVE NO SHAME!!!!

    A NO vote for Obama,
    (JAK)

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    MCCAIN
    Senator McCain:

    You absolutely, as I have said before... will NOT receive my vote this November because of your current and past support for Comprehensive Immigration Reform, which EQUALS AMNESTY!!!! I will do everything in my power to make sure Congress STOPS your efforts in regard to ignoring our immigration laws and rewarding those who have broken them!!! You should be ashamed of your voting record concerning immigration issues! http://grades.betterimmigration.com/tes ... Z&VIPID=33
    This is absolutely disgusting!!!! WHAT A DISGRACE!!!!! Shows who and where your loyalties lie...and it is not with American citizens or this country!

    I have seen your pandering Spanish ad that promises to push AMNESTY again. Flip Flopping!! YOU LIED!!! There should be integrity in a candidate running for the highest office in the land. Where is it? I will NEVER stop fighting your AMNESTY agenda...and if you lose REMEMBER how you lost my vote and the votes of MANY Americans because you BETRAYED US and our great nation!! If you win...many PATRIOTS will cause your stay in the White House to be a miserable one because, in my opinion YOU ARE A TRAITOR to the American people that overwhelmingly WANT ENFORCEMENT OF OUR CURRENT LAWS AND NOT YOUR SELLOUT/ BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE GLOBALISTS, LEGISLATION!!!! That's something to be proud of isn't!!! Oh that's right... you don't have ANY integrity, therefore you're not concerned with being proud... just the highest bidder!

    No thanks for sellouts,
    (JAK)
    Please help save America for our children and grandchildren... they are counting on us. THEY DESERVE the goodness of AMERICA not to be given to those who are stealing our children's future! ... and a congress who works for THEM!
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    Once again LEGAL AMERICANS and LEGAL IMMIGRANTS have to fight to get the politicians to hear us. This great country continues to be in danger because the politicians do not want to hear what the voters have to say. STOP ILLEGALS FROM ENTERING THE USA AND STOP THIS AMNESTY NONSENSE!!!

    And now I find out that McCain is actually broadcasting his ads in Spanish. SHAME ON YOU MCCAIN! YOU MAY HAVE FOUGHT FOR THIS GREAT COUNTRY AT ONE TIME BUT YOU ARE NOW A TRAITOR!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE, YOU ARE A TRAITOR!!!

    O'Bama, you are no less a DISGRACE TOO!! Your ads claim you want to fight to have a better America, to fight for AMERICANS??? You are every bit as bad as McCain! You want Amnesty for illegals? Well, wake up, because LEGAL AMERICANS AND LEGAL IMMIGRANTS DO NOT WANT amnesty! You are playing the same political games as all the other dirty rat politicians!

    TRAITORS, BOTH OF YOU, DISGUSTING TRAITORS! I will fight until my dying breath to help ensure that illegals are removed from our great country and I will fight too, to keep both of you from closing off your ears to what the voters want and demand! Both of you would sell your souls for your special interest groups - let me correct myself - YOU HAVE SOLD YOUR SOULS. DISGUSTING TRAITORS! [/b]

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    Re: Bob Barr

    Quote Originally Posted by no_illegals
    To SicNTiredInSoCal and Bowman - Where do you find that Bob Barr is pro-amnesty? I haven't found that. http://blog.bobbarr2008.com/2008/09/06/ ... on-policy/
    Immigration - Barr is against any kind of fence on the border. He is for reducing government incentives for illegal immigrants to come to the U.S. He has a voting record of being against amnesty, but lately he has been non-committal regarding amnesty. Score: 4
    Barr is wishy washy. Chuck is not:


    http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/c ... 70522.html
    One of Shakespeare's most oft-quoted phrases comes from Romeo and Juliet, where Juliet asks Romeo: "What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." Accordingly, President Bush and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid can call their immigration bill by any name they want to, but it is still amnesty, and it still stinks!

    Hopefully, readers are aware that the Bush/Kennedy amnesty bill is being debated in the U.S. Senate this week with both the White House and senate leaders hopeful of quick passage.

    If it passes, the proposed immigration bill would immediately give all 12-20 million illegal aliens already in the United States "probationary" citizenship. It would also put an estimated 60 million immigrants on the path to citizenship over the next 20 years. In exchange for granting U.S. citizenship to tens of millions of illegals, the bill promises to better protect America's borders.

    However, what is abundantly clear is that the federal government's idea of border enforcement is totally without meaning or merit. Consider the fact that the United States already has copious laws against illegal immigration, including punishment for businesses that hire illegals. So, what good have these laws done? Very little.

    No one with any sense of objective truth believes that the Bush administration is serious about border enforcement. No one. Therefore, how can anyone believe that more promises of border enforcement will accomplish any more than with existing laws?

    The plain truth is, President George W. Bush, Senators Ted Kennedy, John McCain, et al., are simply hell-bent to provide amnesty to tens of millions of illegal aliens, and this bill will give them the power to do it.

    Do I need to convince readers that any kind of amnesty will put America on the fast track to ruin? The United States simply cannot absorb upwards of 60 million, mostly unskilled, non-English-speaking, migrants in the next few years. It just is not possible.

    Already, America is reaping the consequences of unbridled illegal immigration. Americans are being squeezed out of work by illegal immigrants who will work at significantly reduced wages. Of course our unemployment is low: Americans are working two or three jobs just to make ends meet.

    Add to the strain of the loss of good paying jobs the strain of an ever-growing financial burden to taxpayers. For example, Heritage Foundation scholar Robert Rector recently released a new study entitled, "The Fiscal Cost of Low-Skill Households to the U.S. Taxpayer." In the report, Rector notes that two-thirds of the millions of illegal aliens in this country fall into the category of "low-skill" households. Contrast that with just 10% of native-born Americans falling into that category.

    Writing for National Review Online, Byron York states, "Rector found that in 2004, the most recent year for which figures are available, low-skill households received an average of $32,138 per household--the great majority in the form of means-tested aid and direct benefits.... Against that, Rector found that low-skill households paid an average of $9,689 in taxes.... In the final calculation, he found, the average low-skill household received $22,449 more in benefits than it paid in taxes..."

    According to World Net Daily, "If the lower figure of 12 million illegal aliens is used for estimation purposes, the [current] total tax burden translates to $2.2 trillion."

    It doesn't take a mathematical genius to calculate that with an added 60 million mostly unskilled immigrants moving into the country, the financial cost would be more than taxpayers could possibly pay for.

    Consider also the toll upon America's safety and security. Already, law enforcement agencies are very much cognizant of a surge of Latin American "ultra-violent" gangs that have sprung up in more than 40 U.S. states. According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), one gang called MS-13 has been identified in 42 states. Another group called the 18th Street Gang is in 37 states. According to FBI MS-13 National Gang Task Force director Brian Truchon, "When the gang migrates throughout the U.S., there is always a road back to L.A. From L.A., there is always a road back to Central America."

    Retired lawman Jim Kouri recently wrote, "According to Lt. Steve Rogers, a decorated cop and award-winning writer, there are tens of thousands of murderers, rapists, child predators, robbers and drug dealers who are illegally in the United States. One study shows over 200,000 criminal aliens are preying on U.S. citizens."

    As I have previously noted in this column, illegal aliens already murder at least 12 Americans every day. Think of the potential violence that another 60 million aliens will bring. Not to mention the threat of potential terrorism.

    America's law enforcement communities are keenly aware of the probability that international terrorists have already infiltrated the United States due to our lack of border control.

    For example, William Gheen, President of Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee (ALIPAC), recently said, "MS-13 and other illegal immigrant gangs are bringing in the illegals, drugs, heavy weapons, and possibly terrorists. The biggest threat from their members is contained in the multiple intelligence reports provided to Congress indicating that Al-Qaeda and MS-13 are now working together to smuggle terrorist operatives and materials into the U.S."

    In light of all of the above, how in the world can President Bush and senate leaders proceed with plans to explode the growth of unskilled immigrants into the United States? Perhaps the answer lies within the details of the bill.

    According to World Net Daily, "The controversial 'Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007,' which would grant millions of illegal aliens the right to stay in the U.S. under certain conditions, contains provisions for the acceleration of the Security and Prosperity Partnership, a plan for North American economic and defense integration, WND has learned.

    "The bill, as worked out by Senate and White House negotiators, cites the SPP agreement signed by President Bush and his counterparts in Mexico and Canada March 23, 2005--an agreement that has been criticized as a blueprint for building a European Union-style merger of the three countries of North America.

    "'It is the sense of Congress that the United States and Mexico should accelerate the implementation of the Partnership for Prosperity to help generate economic growth and improve the standard of living in Mexico, which will lead to reduced migration,' the draft legislation states on page 211 on the version time-stamped May 18, 2007 11:58 p.m."

    Aw! There is the underlying reason President Bush is willing to incur the wrath of his conservative constituents: he is determined to implement the SPP and pave the way for the emerging North American Union before he leaves office. The amnesty bill being pushed through the Senate this week is absolutely essential to this end.

    As Juliet said, "What's in a name?" Bush, Kennedy, McCain and Company are playing word games with us. They know this is amnesty. You know this is amnesty. And millions of illegal aliens know this is amnesty.

    If it walks like amnesty, talks like amnesty, looks like amnesty, and smells like amnesty, it's amnesty! Now, the question is, Will the American people sit back and let it happen?

    Dear Reader, this might be our last chance to stop the push for amnesty for millions of illegal aliens. If you have never voiced your protest to your civil leaders, I urge you to do so now!

    Here are two links for information on how you can make your voice heard in Washington, D.C. Don't delay! We must act TODAY!

    Tell the Senate, No Amnesty for Illegals here:

    http://www.grassfire.org/19042/offer.asp

    Call the D.C. switchboard here:

    http://www.eagleforum.org/alert/2007/05-18-07.html

    © Chuck Baldwin

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    Presidental candidates on immigration!

    http://www.betterimmigration.com/candid ... z2008.html
    Please help save America for our children and grandchildren... they are counting on us. THEY DESERVE the goodness of AMERICA not to be given to those who are stealing our children's future! ... and a congress who works for THEM!
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    John McCain is the problem, NOT THE SOLUTION!!! For those of you in states where Chuck Baldwin is not going to be on the ballot, I urge you to look into Bob Barr. Don't take the blame when we get all this amnesty and global warming junk by saying that you held your nose and voted for McCain because you were so afraid of Barack Obama!!!!

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    Sorry ncrep, I think Bob Barr is just as bad as either McCain or Obama. I'll right in my choice and that one is.......
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